My next guest wrote an incredible book for executives and high achievers. The program she creates focuses on the most effective ways to eat and train without letting either one take over your life.

Welcome back to the Author Hour Podcast. I’m your host, Hussein Al-Baiaty. My next guest is B Bailey Dawn, who’s here with me to talk about her new book called, Three Days Strong AF.” Let’s get into it.

Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the show. I’m here with my friend, Bailey Dawn who just launched her book. I’m super excited. Bailey, thank you so much for joining me today on Author Hour.

Bailey Dawn: Oh, thank you so much for having me, Hussein.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: This is great. I’m so excited because perusing your book, I was very inspired by the many stories that you had laid out. I’m excited to share some of those stories with our audience. However, the first thing I like to do is really tell the audience a little bit about who you are, where you grew up, perhaps as you were growing up, who were the people around you that influenced you, that really pushed you in the directions that you are today. Perhaps they were family members or people that you met across the way. But I really want to give this background and context to our audience so that we can get into the thick and thin of the book.

Bailey Dawn: Awesome. Thank you. I grew up in a very close and small family. I think my dad had a very big impact on not just myself and our family, but just a lot in our community. Even ended up just being just around the US really. But he was just a very family-oriented man, like family and God always came first and a real love like that always shined in our lives. He always made it a huge priority, we would always go on these road trips, and vacations and make all these memories together. Just family time was just absolutely sacred. Growing up, we would always invite other kids to join in, then dad became a second dad. To some people, they didn’t have a dad. He was their fatherly figure. Growing up, I always had the importance and the value of having a very strong and healthy family.

I had a brother, he is 357 days younger. Technically, we’re Irish twins, which means like we’re born in the same, like less than a year apart. He always had his friends around, so I grew up one of the guys, always playing sports. I had a lot of fun playing sports and being with the guys.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Tell me a little bit about that. Tell me about growing up, and playing sports, and basically starting to learn at a very young age, toughness and doing things that were again tough like around other kid. I know you talked about that in your book a little bit, but can you take us there a little bit.

Bailey Dawn: I think I learned in a hard way, but good way that toughness is such a good thing. I think so many of us shy away from developing that toughness, like we want things to be easy, simple, and laid out right in front of us. Without that toughness, we don’t necessarily develop character. I think character is one of the most beautiful things about what makes a person who they are. I love that part. Later on in life—not even later on, I think I was a teenager. I remember reading somewhere, I think it was in the Bible actually where it says, “Learn to love discipline.” It just taught me like, “Okay. There are good things that come out of the hard times. There’s goodness that comes out of the tough times. There’s goodness that comes out of discipline and learning how to love discipline.”

Instead of being afraid of doing the hard things, learning to love going after the hard things and the risky things and doing the things that, I don’t know, make me afraid sometimes. The first thing that comes to mind is, if something just sounds scary, just jump in and do it. That’s something that I learned pretty early.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: What a powerful tool to start carrying around though, right? This idea of, “Okay. Yeah, that kind of scares me, but I’m going to go in for it. I’m going to dive in for it. That’s a really powerful tool, because obviously, that starts to help unlock the future parts of you.

Bailey Dawn: It does and things get easier too.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yeah. Talk to me a little bit about where that takes, when it came to college, your professional life.

Bailey Dawn: In my college, my professional life, I was always a sprinter and a hurdler, even though I didn’t want to be because running sounds totally contradictory. But running was always very hard and it hurts. Running is hard. I had no intention to keep running when I was in high school. I actually wanted to play softball instead, because it was just much more laid back, and fun, it didn’t hurt as bad. I’m grateful we did, that the athletic director and my track coach ended up saying, “Bailey, where are you going?” I’m like, “Oh, shoot, he knows. Well, I’m going to softball.” He’s like, “No, you’re not. You’re running track.” “No, I don’t want to.” “Well, why not?” “It hurts, okay. I don’t want to do the things that hurt.” I’m glad that I did that because it really taught me to push through the pain and get the rewards that could be on the other side. I’ll say, I wish I would have stuck with it just to see how fast I ended up, how fast could I really be. Instead of just like, “What can I get by just to win?”

When I got to like higher levels, I went to state championship every year and I just wasn’t used to having that kind of competition all the time. So by the time I would get to the higher levels, I’d be like, “Oh, shoot. These girls are—these girls might pass me.” I actually had to be more focused. I often crashed. I had the nickname Crash in high school, because when I would get nervous, and I would have competition that would be close, I would like to be in the middle of doing hurdles and sprinting as fast as I can and I would always not stop. But while I’m jumping over a hurdle, I would still turn around and look behind me to see how far ahead I would be winning, which you cannot do while you’re sprinting and running over hurdles. I would crash faceplant. I mean, I left body prints on tracks. It’s like, “Bailey, you got to focus. You got to stop looking at your competition.”

But I ended up going to college and running for a few more years there. But I think it was in college when I was like, “You know what?? I know I want to be somewhere where I can truly serve people and make people happy in what I want to do with my life, not just as a runner. That’s how I started getting into personal training, nutrition, and setting for the medical board, and becoming a medical massage therapist and working directly with physicians and physical therapists, like even as a teenager. So that became a passion to see how the body works holistically, not just in one dynamic, just in one way, like how you need everything to work together.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yeah. Which sort of brings me to my next question, which is, I understand that you got into being an athlete, and what that was like for you. But you know, there’s a lot of mindset shifts that need to happen, but let’s dive into that. Your first section in your book is about getting into that mindset and what we can learn from professional athletes, and why their mindset, and self-care and how crucial that is. Can you take us there a little bit in sort of how you started going in that direction of really redeveloping a mindset that we can start to cultivate?

The Athlete’s Mindset

Bailey Dawn: Absolutely. Yeah, mindset is everything. I mean, we can keep trying, and trying, and trying over again. But not until do we make things right in our mind, in heart, in our spirit. Like we won’t be able to go down the path that we are wanting to go down? It comes a lot down to the mindset, and working with being an athlete myself, and then working with other professional athletes. It comes down to the mindset, and it’s all mental training. People think it’s all like, “Oh, you’re physically gifted.” “Oh, it must be nice, you’re physically gifted or just genetic.” I mean, yeah, genetics have a very, very small percentage or smaller part of that. But having the mental training is everything.

Well, I want to say like, “There’s a Russian study where they—I think it was like 75% of the athletes did mental training, and then 25% of their training was physical training. They actually performed better than the athletes that were training, like mostly physical and minimally than the mental side of things. So just to show how important the mindset and mental training is in order to do the things that we need, and want to do, and be able to get over those speed bumps and those obstacles, which we all have those in life and what we do when we come up with one, right? You’re just going to fall over, and suck your thumb and feel sorry for yourself. We’re not going to get anywhere when we do that. So being able to cultivate the mindset of, “You know what, I’m here, and this is a time where I need to be better focused and be able to overcome—overcome loss, to overcome grief, to overcome pain, to overcome any kind of adversity, or trauma or hardship.” I mean, those things come at us, so we need to be able to have that kind of mindset to overcome and then pursue.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Why do you go into this section, and you go into talking about not only mindset and everything, but you also start getting into lifting weight, going to the gym sort of a little bit later in your career? But you really go into that world talking about it in your book, and this idea of the thing that keeps you going back to the gym, right? The lifting weights, there’s a sensibility about it that you fell in love with it. Can you talk a little bit about how you really started leaning into what that gym life was like for you and why?

Bailey Dawn: I love gym life. I love it. I think it’s where I get strong physically. I mean, there’s so many of any other things that I can do that I enjoy, like I love adventure. I love doing crazy things, and whether it’s bungee jumping or taking risks. But, I don’t know, just to be able to get into the gym and develop that strength. It helps me to become overall just stronger. Not just physically. There are so many physical benefits of why you want to live, not only do you burn fat faster by lifting weights, but it helps your joints. But for me, when you want to dig deep, I really like to find what I’m truly made out of when I’m lifting hard, lifting heavy. One, it takes consistency to just being able to find out what I’m made of. instead of be like, “Okay, this is starting to hurt. I’m starting to sweat a little bit, let’s stop.” It’s like, pushing through and really challenging myself and being able to see other people do that as well. It’s such fun—it’s just fun. It’s fun, it’s rewarding, you get stronger, you get leaner, and you get results faster that way too.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: I love that, but you got to take the gym and apply it to something else, which I feel like is for me personally, as I’ve recently gotten back into trying to get back into shape and really get healthy in the last few years. I really got into running, I really got into—I think for me, personally, it’s the mental clarity. I feel like when I go for long runs. it just like I come back just clear minded, like you said, utterly focused and just energized. I feel like I just conquered a mountain, you know what I mean? Even if it’s like a three-, four-mile run, just knowing—sometimes I’ll push myself and do five or six. It’s like, yes, I feel so powerful. Do you know what I mean?

Same thing at the gym, when I’m lifting weights, I try to add a few more pounds. I try to—just one or two times just to make myself feel like, “Wow! I can conquer this. I can do this.” But the other side of that is of course, nutrition. I’m a believer in, we are what we consume. Not just what we eat, but what we hear, what we see, what we are surrounded by. But nutrition is of utmost value when it comes to, honestly, the underlying message of self-care. Can you talk about nutrition and how that plays a role in the world that you play in?

Bailey Dawn: Absolutely. Nutrition. I’ve noticed when people, they want to be—I say people, like in general—if someone wants to get healthy, and get in shape and start working out again, usually, the first thing they do is just start eating salads all day. When it comes to nutrition, yeah, it’s good to have some green stuff, but we need to have protein, and we also need to look at our gut health as well. There’s that saying like, “You are what you eat.” Then my late coach, John Meadows, I remember him saying, “You are what you have eaten, has eaten.” So to make sure you’re eating cage-free eggs, grass-fed beef, and things like that. But I like to take it even a step further, where it’s, “You are what you have absorbed.” So whatever you are absorbing into your system, I mean, you can even think of this like physically, you can think of this emotionally, mentally, spiritually, like it’s a very dynamic way, what you are absorbing.

Whatever you’re absorbing is what you are, so it’s important to have really good gut health as well. So not just looking at what do I need to eat to look good and be skinny and sexy. Who doesn’t want that? But like, what do you need to eat so you have a healthy gut that’s promoting overall healthier wellbeing, and brain health as well and gut function so the rest of your body can function very well and have that kind of clarity. So we need to take good care of our gut.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yeah. God. I love that so much. It’s so important. You go into that with your book, but it also brings up a few things, right? When we talk about nutrition, we talk about health, diet, whatever. There are sometimes just the ideas of fear. What will other people think of me? How will I overcome this? The judgment of others, the judgment of ourselves, of course. I feel like those stories that play in our head, how we talk to ourselves, those play a role. But you did something incredible that we got to chatting about. But I really wanted to mention it because it’s not necessarily in the book, but it helps you face some of your fears. You quite literally went to face some of those fears. Can you tell us a little bit story about those wolves and why are you so terrified of wolves? I mean, I would be too. I’m just saying, I’m interested to see why that was a fear for you and how you ended up facing those fears.

The Wolves

Bailey Dawn: Oh my gosh. That was such a crazy—I actually have that. That is the screensaver on my phone. Because, it’s literally, I have a wolf kissing me on the—actually, the wolf is biting my face. Don’t worry. I have my face completely intact. My lips are still there, but that’s the screensaver because it shows me how far I’ve come. Okay. Wolves have always been my fear. I would wake up in the middle of the night as a child like terrified, screaming and just night sweats. Anytime that I would like see a wolf, even if the cartoon or I even remember going to some kind of museum as a kid, and there’d be like a wolf that would be stuffed or even in a zoo, we see a wolf. My dad is like, “Oh, she’s going to have nightmares again tonight.” Sure enough, I would have nightmares. I would have this nightmare of being chased and hunted by wolves so often.

I’m the youngest of, I forget how many cousins, but I’m the youngest of all of my cousins and my one brother. I was always the one looking out for everybody else. But we were all in the backyard in my dream and we’re playing. Then I see all these glowing eyes coming out from the woods. As these glowing eyes are coming out from the woods, and the other kids, they don’t see it, they don’t see it and they just keep playing. There’s like three of my cousins that were age two at the time, because I think I was nine. As we’re all playing, and I see these glowing eyes, and they start creeping out of the woods. I was like, “Oh, no. It’s wolves” and everything’s happening in slow motion, and I’m single handedly trying to get all my cousins, and my brother, and trying to get them to move faster into the house and to get away from the wolves. Everything was happening in slow motion just trying to get like – like I said, there was three of them that were two years old in the backyard, and these wolves are coming out, and they’re coming faster and they’re coming faster.

Right at the last second to get everyone in the house, one of my aunts actually shuts the door on my face. Everyone’s inside, and then I get locked out with the wolves and then they start chasing me. That’s usually where I wake up. It was in my mid-20s when I started like really going deep and holistic, like healing, and counseling and just getting to the root of things. I remember my counselor, she asked me if I had any reoccurring dreams and nightmares. I was like, “Yeah, I mean I have that.” I never thought much of it, because it just became—I just took it as part of my life. “Yeah, I have this nightmare I can’t get rid of.” We sat, and we pray and we ask God to show us, okay, what are these wolves represent.

We later found out that these wolves actually represented men in my life. We had a pray through the healing of each one of what these guys did. It went back as far as like when I was nine. Again, this is when the trauma started. When I was nine, we were all playing in the backyard at my aunt’s house, and we weren’t allowed inside because all of the adults were having like a Tupperware party and it was adult time, okay. So the kids had to stay in the yard. But you know, I was the oldest, I was nine, I was too mature to hang out with two-year-olds and five-year-olds.

I was like, “Screw these guys, I’m going to go in the woods.” So I went by myself on a little adventure in the woods. I saw a couple teenagers, and I want to get closer and see what they’re doing. So I hid behind a bush. As I’m hiding behind this bush, and just watching them, they had guns, and they’re just playing with guns and putting up targets. I’ve never seen a gun before and I was just curious. I came out from hiding in the bushes. As a nine-year-old, I was like, “Hey, what are you guys doing?” Then the guys are like, “Get the fuck out here, you bitch” and yelling at me. I was like, “Whoa!” Because we didn’t use that kind of language, it was like, “Whoa! What’s that mean? Well, these guys are mean.” I said, okay. I need to leave and get out of here.

I start walking back down the path to go back to the house because these guys are obviously not nice. But I’m still curious, I still want to see what they’re doing. I continued to hide in my hiding spot where they didn’t see where I was hiding. But I could hear what they said they wanted to do to me. Even though I was only nine, I didn’t understand what those things were. If you can only imagine, seriously, it was like, one of the first times I remember God answering a prayer in my life. But I remember hiding, and then hearing the thing that they wanted to do. They’re like, “Let’s go get that F&B.” That’s what I remember just being crouched down behind this bush. I was like, “God, I need a club to defend myself. I need to fight. I need to fight this.” I’m nine, I need to fight these two teenagers.

They get with their guns, and they get on their dirt bikes. As they’re coming down the path with their dirt bikes, and their guns, and I had like all these different scenarios that played out, like how this was going to end up. I had to make a decision. I made a decision really, really quickly, and it was to jump out from behind the bush, and just smack the crap out of them with my club and take off running. They continue to keep shooting at me while I was sprinting through the woods. Mind you, I was already deep into the woods because I was going on my little exploration. And I was running, and running and running. I have asthma really bad, and so I was in the middle of having an asthma attack. I was like, “How am I ever going to make it back there? If they catch me, I’m going to die.

There was a fallen oak tree to be able to get into the woods. I get laid over the top of like this creek. So instead of having to go down further down the creek to crawl across this oak tree, I made a running leap to try to make it across the creek. I didn’t make it all the way. So I landed halfway in, soaking wet, trying to crawl and I can hear them shooting at me in the back. Then I’m running up to the house, and I can see my brother who’s a year younger than me, and then all the way down to age two. I’m yelling, trying to yell because I was having an asthma attack. I’m like, “Run, run. They have guns, run. They have guns” and I’m running. I can’t lead them to the house because I was like, “I don’t want these people to shoot my family. I don’t want to run to my cousins and my brother. I don’t want them to hurt them.

I run past the house and I tried to go into the next set of woods on the other side. It’s like, “I’m not going to make it, I cannot breathe.” With my last breath, I jumped, and I leaped underneath my grandpa’s truck. I was like, “I can’t run anymore. I can’t even breathe.” They caught up to me at that point, and they grabbed a hold of me from underneath the truck. They pulled me out, and they just started beating the crap out of me in front of my brother and all my cousins. I just remember looking up and seeing my two-year-old cousins, especially, like they were just screaming because they’re watching their big cousin just getting beat up by the neighborhood bullies. I remember, the two guys, they’re age 16 and 17 at the time. They’re like, “Oh shit, we got to go.” They took off running back into the woods.

That very traumatic moment. I mean, thankfully, it wasn’t worse. Like what would have happened if they actually caught me in the woods and having to defend myself. Learning how to be tough at a young age, learning how to look after other people. For me, learning how to walk through that feeling of neglect or abandonment, and forgiving, like the power of forgiveness. Once I was able to walk through all the healing of neglect, abandonment, forgiveness of everything that happened, that nightmare had stopped. To this day, I have not had that nightmare again. I just had to – I heard like some friends that we’re talking about. There’s a wolf conservatory and how wolves can sense your fear. There’s all these—wolves are just so beautiful, such beautiful animals. People totally don’t understand how beautiful they are.

The more I heard these people talk about wolves like. “Oh, yeah. You can actually pay to get in a cage of wolves. You have to sign a waiver, of course.” I was like, everything in my spirit was like, “Bailey, you faced this fear emotionally, you faced it spiritually, you faced it mentally. Now, you got to face it physically and get into that cage.” That’s when I actually flew from Ohio to Colorado, pay to get in a cage of wolves and it ended up being the most beautiful experience in my life, being able to face where—I think we face fear, like just fearing what’s on the other side. But I’ve learned like, when you face fear, it’s beauty that’s on the other side. Ever since then, I was like, “Wow! Wolves are so beautiful. There’s nothing to be afraid of in the first place.” So when you have a fear, like we need to face it, because the longer we wait to face it, the longer we’re putting things off.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yeah, absolutely. Wow! What a journey. It turns out that these wolves were a symbol, a symbol of courage, they represented different things and how you faced it. Going back to kind of really heal yourself and go through that transformation in such a beautiful way. I’m sure it was very intense having going through those memories, and kind of restitching the story in a way that can give you a positive outlook, that you can then go on and grow from. Which obviously has given you strength in the gym, it gives you strength in the world. Being a mother, being all those things, requires strength and courage. I feel like the things that happened to us at a young age, so disheartened to hear about what happened at such an early age and how traumatizing that experience must have been like. But then, it was followed up by you growing to become even stronger, and a better person, and you acknowledge certain things and your level of awareness has obviously risen.

To sit in a cage with wolves, and take pictures with them after having utter nightmares is wild in of itself. But I am—yeah, I just want to commend you for sharing that. I mean, it was very vulnerable in letting your guard down and sharing that, but it’s such a powerful thing that we grow from those challenges and you really encapsulate that. How would you say, I mean, as we go through life, there are of course, seasons. There are some times where—there are times in our life, especially as adults, where we feel the friction, we feel the tightness, we feel the shortness of breath, if you will. But you talk about this adjusting your dial in life, adjusting—it’s not an on and off switch, it’s more of a dial and really understanding how to navigate, how to work that dial is sort of our responsibility that we get to take on. Can you talk a little bit about that dial in life lessons and share your experiences with that?

Life Lessons

Bailey Dawn: Yeah, absolutely. Especially in the fitness world, right? When we want to be healthier and more fit, we want to crank hard, we diet hard, we go to the gym hard, we crank that sucker up to a 10. We’re like, “I’m going to lose 30 pounds in two months or something.” Life gets hard. Just life gets hard for everyone. There’s going to be speed bumps. What do we do when they happen? Usually, we put our own health, our own fitness our own—like the things that matter most are the very things we put on the backburner. That’s the opposite of what we should do. We actually need to be pressing more into our loved one, and our health, and our fitness when times get harder, okay? Instead of pulling away from it.

One of the ways that we can do that is adjusting our dial. When life gets hard, instead of thinking we have to be cranked out of a 10. Then when life gets hard, like what people say, fall off the wagon. You don’t have to fall off the wagon. We can just adjust the dial. I remember for me particularly. like my own health crash, because I felt like I needed to stay at a 10. Like training, nutrition wise. I felt like I needed to be ready to do a fitness shoot for pictures, for fitness stuff. As soon as someone would call me, I would have to be ready for that. I was like, “Bailey, that’s completely unrealistic and not healthy to do.” So I would have that expectation on myself.

Versus like, I just got married, my dad was just diagnosed with a fatal disease, he was forced to get the flu shot, and he was almost immediately paralyzed and he ended up dying from it. I was driving two and a half hours a day, on top of getting married, and trying to help with him and the stress that was doing to my mom. It was very hard to go through that. Instead of trying to keep my health at a 10—not my health at a 10, but like the intensity at a 10, I needed to draw the intensity back a little bit. So I’d be like, “Oh, yeah. Life is really, really hard. I should not be taking care of myself at all, or watching what I eat, and go into the gym and fall off the wagon. But instead, I needed to reel it back to maybe an eight, or seven, or sixth or something like that.” But instead, I was burning the candle at like 10ms, and then wondered why my health crashed.

It’s just important to be able to realize that we each had the power to take our hand, reach for the dial and turn it, zero through 10. What do you need it to be? What is good for your life and the pressures that you have in your life, with family, and relationships, and your job, and planning vacations, and your goals with your career, and your finances and all these things? How do you keep all these things balanced? The dial is one of those ways to keep it balanced.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: God, that’s so powerful. You’re right, I feel like so many people think of it as a switch, “Turn this off. Turn this on. Put that on the back burner, all these things. But it’s understanding that you can do what you can and if you need to decrease the intensity, do so because that’s healthy. It’s actually—that’s a level of awareness, right? It’s like knowing your body knowing where you at in life and all those kinds of things, and what is priority right now. It’s okay if something else takes a little bit more precedent for that time, but just adjusting to that. I really love that idea of a dial, and knowing that you can decrease and increase as you need to and when you need to.

There’s a lot in your book, which is so profound. But I want to know what it was like to actually write the book in the first place and what did you learn from that journey and your experience? What was it like? What were the components that really stood out to you that were challenging, perhaps or that you enjoyed?

Bailey Dawn: Oh my gosh. What a journey. First of all, I love that I did it because I think doing it was in itself facing a fear. I’ve always wanted to write, to be able to help people, to be able to share some of the things I went through and what other people have gone through just to help inspire. I feel like, I think every single one of us has something to offer that could help the next person. That’s what I wanted to do with my book. I think it was really interesting because I did have eight chapters of a rough draft already written when I went to Scribe, and was meeting with Tucker Max, and was asking him about what exactly to write. Because I have a more spiritual book that would have a completely different audience or this book that can have that different audience. I’ve learned you have to write specific for one audience. Instead of, you can’t just be liked by everyone. It’s just hard, something like, “I want everyone to like me.”

But when it comes to writing and doing business, you have to be sure that you’re speaking directly to the person you can help, so that person knows that like, “Oh, yeah. This is the one that can help me.” That’s an ongoing thing for me, like always working with. Because I do, I want to help everybody, but I have to be very specific in like, “This is who I can help the best and I can give my all to efficiently, if that makes sense.” Then I used to call it the 3D body. It’s like, why don’t you just write the 3D body? Then for me, I was like, I don’t know. Like, isn’t that boring? Isn’t that boring for people? Because for me, it’s what I live. It’s not like—I thought people would be bored by my book, because it’s what I do, it’s what I live. It’s almost what I do without even thinking about it. It’s like, “Why would that be boring?” I’m like, “I don’t know. I just don’t even think about it. I just do it.” And he’s like, “Well, that’s more the reason why you should write the book, because you can do it without thinking about it. And there’s people that wish they could have what you do without even thinking about it.”

So I was able to just put things on paper that I’ve learned through all these years, especially working with my late coach, John Meadows. He was actually supposed to look over the book before he passed away. He died very young and tragically, and so I dedicated the book to him and to my dad. Because ultimately, I think a lot of men, I write more specifically for men, like busy husbands and fathers, guys that don’t really have a lot of time to be in the gym. But they want to be fit, they want to be jacked, but then they also want to succeed. Whereas my subtitle says, kick ass every area of life. How to help them be able to get to how John was, where he was very well respected in every area of his life and extremely fit. He was a professional bodybuilder. Muscle magazines would call him and want to interview him and know what he had to say. I was very, very blessed and fortunate that he took me under his wing. Men want that kind of life, like his lifestyle. Even if they don’t want to be as like large as he became and large as other professional bodybuilders, like the lifestyle of, the priorities of marriage, and family, and your faith, and how to increase joy in your life and moving forward in your career. Like that’s, I think, my sweet spot and what I like to focus on. It helped me clarify through my book writing experience, that’s who I really like to work with, if that makes sense.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: The right person to serve, who do you want to be a hero for. I love that. Because once you hone in on exactly who you actually want to speak to, I feel like the message just flexes to be so much easier. But not easier in the sense of how to write. But you just know, if I have this person, if I have John in front of me, what would I say to him in this moment, right? What can I coach through this moment? It just becomes a more one to one as opposed to thinking of an audience. That room could be filled with 200,000 different types of personalities, and backgrounds, and weight class and height as opposed to focusing on John. But there are a lot of men like John who can also obviously pick up the book, but come at it from their own perspective, and take out what they need to get their workflow going, their gym flowing, all that good stuff.

Bailey, this is so informative, so powerful. I just want to say congratulations because writing a book is not an easy feat. I just want to congratulate you. It sounds like, though you pivoted from your first book, I definitely feel like there’s another book within you that’s going to layer on top of this one. But this one is so profound, I highly, highly recommend all of our listeners, go check it out. The book is called Three Days Strong AF: Get Built in Less Time, Increase Your Energy, and Kick Ass at Life. Bailey, I learned so much today. Thank you for sharing your stories and your experiences. Besides checking out the book, where can people find you? Any resources or websites that people could check out for your work?

Bailey Dawn: Sure thing. I actually started building the website today. I got to get back on top of that. But it’s threedaysstrongaf.com.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Love it. Can people reach out via LinkedIn, social media?

Bailey Dawn: Yeah, LinkedIn. I got to get better at the whole social media thing. I’m usually so busy and enjoying—I wouldn’t say busy. I hate the word busy. But I’m usually in life, and in the moment, not on social media as much. But sure, go ahead.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Well, again, Bailey, thank you so much for coming on the show, sharing your wisdom, your stories, your vulnerability. All of it was such an honor today and a privilege to get to know you. Again, if you’re out there, you’re looking for something good to read, some inspirational motivational stuff, but also stories that really are from the heart that resonate deeply. Even with me, a kid from Iraq, in the Middle East, I was able to resonate with some of Bailey’s work, so I know you could too. Bailey, thanks again for coming on the show. I really appreciate you.

Bailey Dawn: Hey, thank you so much, Hussein.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Absolutely.