My next guest helps you deconstruct your limiting beliefs formed by diet culture and replace them with her five pillars of sustainable weight loss, build a solid habit foundation that will carry you towards your vision of weight loss, health, and happiness with the questions, journaling prompts and exercises in her new book.

Welcomed back to the Author Hour Podcast. I’m your host Hussein Al-Baiaty and my next guest is Robyn Shaw, who is here with me to talk about her new book called, Hustle but Healthy, let’s flip through it.

Hello my friends, welcome back to the show. I’m here with my friend Robyn Shaw today, how just finished up her book, Hustle but Healthy. I’m super excited to get into it, Robyn, thanks for joining me today on the show.

Robyn Shaw: Thank you so much for having me.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yeah, this is so great. I love just sharing, you know, not just about the books that we bring on the show but really about the people behind them and the best way I to, I feel like, I can share who you are with our audience is to give us a little bit of a background, where you grew up, how you ended up in maybe perhaps like share about the people who influenced you, the people that were in and out of your life, the things, the circumstances that got you into the profession that you’re in and then why you decided to write this book but we’ll get to that later.

Robyn Shaw: Yeah, I love that. That’s such a funny question, are you a small town person or what? I grew up in a small town for sure. I grew up south of Ottawa, Ontario in Canada so, northern folk up here and I moved to Toronto back in 2011 and so I mean, I’ve lived there for 10 years and so I think like you know, the city has definitely rubbed off on me. I am an OG, like, small town girl but I’ve lived in a bigger city for a long time.

So I would kind of consider myself you know, a bit of a Torontonian at this point and yeah, I guess like, really what has shaped me to write something like this or just even get into kind of like the health, weight loss, fitness space was CrossFit. So I spent a lot of time coaching CrossFit after I did my undergraduate degree and spent a ton of time in the gym like, that’s kind of where I live.

My whole family was really into it, my brother owned a gym, I was in Toronto running a gym, I coached, you know, pretty well from 5:00 a.m. until 8:00 p.m., you know, off and on like that’s really where I lived and from there it’s kind of how I really dove into it and then eventually, you know, started to see a little bit of a gap and people wanting to learn more about how to eat properly, how to feed themselves properly for you know, fitness and how to lean out or put on muscle or whatever and so it really just kind of evolve from there, like starting to give my own clients and the numbers of the gym advice and then eventually, yeah, just snowballed.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: That sounds amazing and this sort of started building out your career and that space a little bit more and I feel like now, you’re the guru behind the space that you barely knew anything about and now you’re just an expert.

Robyn Shaw: I appreciate that, yeah. Yeah, I mean, always learning, right? I think like, that’s one thing that I’ve really just love to do is constantly learn and writing is a very much a creative process of course for me and I love that part of writing and I’ve really kind of used this book and all the blog post and content that I put out as a way to just like, kind of use my creativity because I have a fine arts degree, which is totally unrelated to what I’m doing.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: No, it’s very related. Yeah.

Robyn Shaw: Related in this sense of being an author for sure but in the, you know, in the business ownership, coaching kind of sense of it, fitness coaching it, it’s funny when people ask me, you know, what’s my formal training and like, “Oh well, I painted for five years, you know?”

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yeah, I still paint today, you know? And I didn’t get a degree but my father was my trainer. My father was an artist who is a painter quite literally saved our lives in many ways but we won’t get into all that. You know, he very much taught me how to hold a brush and the layers and all these things.

So growing up, I was always felt more self-taught but I love how that creativity lended itself to you know, my business acumen or going to school or relationships. I’m always trying to find a creative way to create an experience and I think that’s the approach of the like, because you know, painting is a practice, right?

Like, there is no one masterpiece, it’s a collection of everything you do and so like, having those ideas come from that side of, I guess, our minds or our creativity but then, applying that to you know, when people think about failing today, I learned about failing a little differently. Meaning like, every painting was a try, you know?

And I felt like whatever I’m doing, whether I’m running a mile today, you know, trying to be more healthy and all those things, whether I eat better or just get to the prayer rug, I, it’s just like, “All right, I’m just going to try, this is just an attempt.” It’s not like, my end all perfection, right?

But I love that, so, can you talk to us a little bit about this idea of you know, taking stabs at things, attempting. I feel like your book kind of eases us into health, wellness and just the perception and you really talk about that mindset too.

Easing into Wellness

Robyn Shaw: Yeah, I really like what you said there. Like, I mean, a lot of what you described is really just taking action on things and I think that’s really what I try and do with this book is make it simple and not so overwhelming for you to take action on your health and you know, my job and I have a wonderful team of coaches that help me, you know, run my coaching business and all of that and we always talk in our kind of coach’s development meetings or whatever.

Team meetings that, like, our job at the end of the day is to get people to act because you know, what I say in the book or maybe at least once, you know, knowledge isn’t power and I talked to my members and clients about this all the time like, your knowledge, everything that you have kind of stored in your brain about how to lose weight or what’s right or what’s wrong or these fad diets and you know, calories in, calories… like, there’s just so much information out there.

But all of that doesn’t really mean anything unless you can put it into action and at the end of the day, if it’s right or wrong or if it’s the wrong action, like trial and error is a huge part of this game. As you kind of just mentioned with like painting and creating a work of art and creating multiple works of art and just, you go through each one being like, “Oh maybe, like, maybe this was crap, you know?” Like, “Or maybe I hate this” or “But I’ll try again and I’ll try again.”

And that really is the same thing about the approach that I really like to take with your own kind of health journey is like, all action is good action in my mind, even if it maybe led you to a place that you weren’t totally happy with or the results weren’t as great as you wanted like, “Okay, now we can rule that out as, okay, this didn’t work for me.”

So yeah, I think like, that was kind of a nice way of putting how your practicing the creativity has helped you just act and that’s really what this book is about too is to really just breaking it down simply, so that people can put some of these thoughts and ideas into action that fits pretty seamlessly into their lifestyles and for this book in particular, you know, busy woman, we talk a lot about the chaos of the busy woman’s life and how we can actually take little tidbits of information and integrate it into our lifestyle.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: I just agree with you in so many aspects because, you know, whether you’re a busy woman or busy man or busy person just out there in the world, you know, moving through the motions, right? You got your work, you got your job, you got your kids, you got your life, vacation, whatever it is that you’re doing but it’s the idea that you know, what I find… you know, this is interesting and I’m sure some of your clients even approach you with these scenarios, right?

Like, “I don’t have time” and this idea that I don’t have time means you’re limiting how you see time, right? Like for me, personally, and I change that perspective. When I was just, you know, a little bit younger, my brother was very much into martial arts growing up and so I was a little bit of his punching bag but he always found time.

I was the drawer, the artist, you know, the nerd kid and so I just, this is always like, amazed about he always had the time to work out and stay fit. Like, “Dude, why do I have this belly?” and he’s like, “Because you think of time differently” you know? He’s like, “You got to think about you as a part of your time” and that blew my mind, you know what I mean? I have to put myself into my schedule, like, you know, and working out is a part of that.

Robyn Shaw: Absolutely. Absolutely and I mean, you can say it’s you know, well, it could be, well, maybe it’s not a priority for you, like is this a priority, right? We do have that conversation but I think that also a big part of that is a feeling. Like, not having time oftentimes is like a feeling you’re having, right?

And that usually is that feeling of overwhelm or feeling of exhaustion or burnout and I think we take those feelings and we attach them to like, “Oh, my schedule’s too busy. I don’t have time to do things” but if we really like, objectively break down the hours in the day and the time that you do have, more often than not what we’ve seen is, yeah, you do actually have time but what is currently on your plate, leaving you feeling a certain way.

Like the perception, there’s this perception that you don’t actually have the time. So gosh, that is probably one of the most common things we hear, right? “I don’t have time. I don’t have time, like, how am I supposed to do this?” but again, like, our job and a big part about this book is like, the things that you do, they don’t have to be so time consuming and I think, that’s what like this… a lot of the kind of health and fitness world has overtime kind of depicted as like, “You have to be spending, you know, X amount of hours in the gym and meal prepping and doing this and doing that”

I think there’s a lot of that still lingering in a lot of women’s minds like, “Okay, in order to achieve XYZ, I need to put in this many hours” and it’s not true because I think we just really forget about the most fundamental parts of living healthy and that could be, you know, drinking your water or getting too sleep at a decent hour of going outside and getting some fresh air and going for walks and everybody has time for that.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yeah, yeah, you’re right and you know it’s funny because when we think about the gym, right? We think that’s where I can exercise, right? But health is not just exercise, you’re 100% right. Health is actually sleeping well. It’s being calm, it’s de-stressing yourself, decluttering. Health is in every aspect of your life, right? Like, a healthy relationship is going to get you to the gym.

A healthy job, like, you know, like, thinking about your life holistically and seeing where you can amp up the health aspect of those components is how I feel like we should think about time and space and who we are. I feel, you know, my wife really brought that to my attention as well, like you know…

I’m an artist, I’m a creative, I’m an entrepreneur so I do a lot of things in my head, of course, right? But also I’m a creative, I like making things but the one big aspect I was unhealthy in was taking care of my body, right? And it’s like if you don’t take care of this temple, who will and when, you know? And it just really resonated.

So once I started like, this is my personal perspective by the way, right? Look, once I started integrating like, “Okay, actually, health is the number one priority because if I don’t prioritize that then everything else will suffer” and what does health mean? You know, eating as best as I can.

It doesn’t have to be perfect, right? Like you said, no meal prep, no whatever, but as best as we can get it. You know, exercise, exercise as often and as long as you can. Like, do what you can but don’t not do it, you know? And that’s the beauty, I think of that mind shift and I love that you started us off with a mindset with your book and I think it’s just so powerful.

Finding Your Mindset

Robyn Shaw: Absolutely and I think a big part of that like you said is, shifting your expectations and what you actually want, like, a lot of this, I mean, in the title, it’s sustainable weight loss and sustainable wellness and that is one of the key words I think and probably one of the key words in everything we do is sustainability because I mean, let’s be real here.

You can, if you want results and results being, I don’t know, you want to lose 10 pounds and you want to get leaner, you want to get stronger, whatever, yeah. By all means, go spend hours in the gym, go meal prep, go count your macros, go do all of those things where if we neglect the foundation again and that goes back too what you were talking about just now is like, your health.

If you’re not working from the ground up, which is you know, one of the five sections of this book is really working from the ground up and laying that foundation for yourself and any results that you see doing just those, you know, two things, going to the gym, meal prepping, they’re likely going to be temporary.

I always say to like, you know, everybody I’ve talked to is like, your workouts and you know, your food, what you actually put in your mouth are two small pieces of the puzzle, right? And it is the mindset, the spirituality, the self-care, the way that you think about yourself, the way that you think about yourself, the way that you talk to yourself.

Those small habits, like we already kind of touched on briefly, getting outside, going for walks, being social, like all of these things that make up a true healthy lifestyle is what’s going to ultimately carry you through to that sustainability. So yeah, I think like, I really love what you’re saying there and that is totally, totally relatable to the book I’m sure.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: It’s really profound. I mean, growing up, you know, I’m a Muslim. So like, a lot of my dad’s like, sharing of knowledge was around these beautiful quotes and around health and around…not that fully. If my dad was here, I was not healthy but like from the idea of like, he was a father, an artist, you know, creative, very spiritual. To him, he was healthy in that realm, right?

So I believe, like he said this thing all the time and I’m not sure if we came from like the prophet Mohammed or the Quran to be honest with you but I used to say that health is your crown. It’s like Shahataj, which is literally the health is your crown and so you define that how you want but that’s what makes you, you know, this benevolent being, you know, this existing, right? When someone doesn’t have health or laying in the hospital bed or whatever it is, God forbid, anything like that happens, the one thing you want in that moment is your health.

Robyn Shaw: Is you’re healthy, yup.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yeah. And so…

Robyn Shaw: And I heard, I don’t know if you know, David Meltzer, you know? I don’t know if you know the movie, Jerry Maguire and that whole move was off of his life and so I had the chance of listening to him speak and he said, you know, one of his quotes that he said and I remember writing it down was, “If you don’t have health, you have like one wish” right? And that’s what we just talked about to have your health.

If you have your health, you can have all the wishes and desires and what’s in the world and I think like, yeah, it’s so true and you don’t realize really what you have until yeah, you’re put in the situation and that’s what we see a lot of times. Women coming to us in a situation where they’re like, “Oh dang, I’ve developed high blood pressure, high cholesterol tied to diabetes.” “I’m you know, the pandemic happened to me.”

Which has happened to so many people in terms of you know, health declining over the past couple of years and so yeah and then they realized like, “Oh man, now I’m at a point where that’s all I care about, that’s really all I care about” and I love what you said and what your father said, you know, about wearing your health as a crown. As soon as you said that, like, what I think about is like, being proud of your health, like wearing it.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yes.

Robyn Shaw: With pride.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Wearing it as a crown, yes.

Robyn Shaw: Yeah and taking like full ownership of your health is kind of the first thing that I thought about when you said that and that is also a huge conversation that we tend to have regularly with our members is, “Hey, like, yeah, diet culture sucks” and it has done a lot of harm to a lot of people in the sense of, you know, over restriction and overworking and unsustainable results and all these things.

Like we know diet culture has done some harm but don’t forget that you know, diet culture has also led us to be a little bit more conscious and self-aware of the actions that we are doing to take care of ourselves. So you know, we have a lot of women who have been hurt by diet culture. They have some not eating disorders but disorder tendencies. You know we always kind of outsource anything to source it out to somebody else but if they have kind of disorder tendencies, it is usually because I should say they have a long history of yoyo dieting for example, right?

Or the fad dieting or going all in and then you know, all out and stuff like that and so I think when they finally get to us and they’re ready to really take a more sustainable approach, they’re almost afraid to talk about the fact that they are on another program because they say like, “Oh, I don’t want to be associated with dieting and diet culture” and da-da-da. While I get it and while I totally am empathetic towards that, I always try and push them in the direction of it’s never shameful for you to be taking care of yourself.

You should be wearing your health and the actions you are taking towards your health with a sense of pride because you will be that beacon of light for somebody else who’s also been hurt by diet culture and maybe is having a hard time pulling themselves out of that as well. So that’s just yeah, what I was kind of thinking about when you said wearing as crown. I really, really like that image.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yeah, I appreciate that and you really painted that image so well by sort of textualizing it a little bit more for us. I just appreciate that so much and it’s again, thinking about health holistically, it is something I feel like I’ve grown into. It’s not something I used to think about, right? The different people and the different ideas that I have been able to kind of tap into. I started falling in love with running.

I started falling in love—like I started going boxing and like just taking a class and it is just so—it feels so good on my body that then when I am creative or when I am doing something else, again, I am bringing that health along with me, right? So like after a boxing session, I am calm like you can’t bother me because I am exhausted.

Robyn Shaw: Exactly, oh my god and that’s it and I think like—

Hussein Al-Baiaty: But feeling so good like my mind is so just filled with that energy, so I can bring that again. I didn’t mean to cut you off to my conversation with my wife to you know, a call with my mom, whatever it is, right? So I just love that approach so much.

Robyn Shaw: Oh yeah and I think like what you are saying is so important too because like the point of, you know, I am a bit of a health nut. I’m a fitness nut. Yeah, I love spending time in the gym. I still coach CrossFit like I will always be somebody that spends a lot of time in the gym and coaches CrossFit and does it like that’s just who I am but that doesn’t mean by any means that this book or my practice or the content that I put out or what I am preaching is trying to get you or anybody to become that person.

Because what I think you’re saying is so important that your health practice, your whatever, like you know, your healthy living, your healthy habits, everything that you practice for the betterment of your health ultimately is to enhance the other things that you care about more, right? So whatever it is and for you and me, it is that creativity, you know, the painting whatever it is. For somebody else, it could be their job.

You know we have a lot of women who have a very important role in their job and it means a lot to them. We have some women who do also own their own business and that is very important to them. We have a mom who is obviously their kids are important to them and so really what we do is identify those things and really make those things the focus and use those things as their why.

Because I think establishing an important reason why for starting a health journey is one of the first, first steps because if your why is, “Oh, I want to lose 20 pounds or I want to fit into a pair of jeans” those are all very fleeting things, right? Like okay, you step on the scale and you see 20 pounds lost and you are happy for the moment but then what happens when you go out for dinner and need a high sodium meal and you are bloated and all of a sudden, you’re one you know, 19 pounds gone.

Are you going to be upset about that? So usually the case is yes and it derails them and so I think like where we’re coming from is establish a reason why that is so connected to who you are as a person like what makes you, you. For you, it’s your creativity. It is your art, it is your practice, it’s the entrepreneurial spirit that you have and all of these things. For somebody else, it could be their kids like motherhood, that means the most to them.

So like using that and then using health and all of these healthy practices and habits and whatever to make that so much better is really the angle that we are trying to come at it from.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: I’m so glad you went there too because it just helps that picture just come to life more because you know it is important to remember not only why you’re starting but like connecting it to a deep emotional state, you know, a person or a place or a thing that can really ground us and remind us and that reminder is so crucial when things are hard when you don’t want to go do the work out or you don’t want to eat healthy at that moment.

Sometimes it’s okay to just indulge and then kind of get back to remembering but I am just really glad that you brought that up. What would you say like, you know, throughout writing and I know you’re a person that trust the process. You know, you talk about that in your book, this idea of trusting the process because you may not see the results you’re looking for, you know? You can start to see those results differently, right?

Like you said, it is not necessarily just the pounds on the scale but perhaps how you are now in your relationship? How do you feel when you come out of work or go into work, right? Like the test to whatever good you’re getting out of working out, where are you applying that? Where does it actually matter and if it lines up with where it actually matters and you are doing the right thing and I think that’s so powerful.

But since you’re trusting the process and I know we have a pretty rigorous process at Scribe as far as you know, the process of creativity, right? Trusting that things will come together, what would you say is the most difficult part about bringing your knowledge to this book? The writing journey if you will.

The Writing Journey

Robyn Shaw: That’s a good question. My writing journey I think was the most challenging part. I wrote this book like three times before it actually came to like a manuscript that I wanted to submit to Scribe and a big part of that for me was the most challenging part and you can probably relate to this maybe like let’s bring it back to art and painting for a second because I feel like I have been through this before when I was in art school trying to put together like my final kind of thesis, you know, body of work.

You have hundreds of paintings, right? You are taking a look at hundreds of these paintings and trying to put them, you know, choose ones that are going to work together, speak to one another and you know, are pretty cohesive that can stand alone as one body of work, right? So you are starting to narrow down all of these years and you know, blood, sweat and tears and smaller pieces of art and then create something new out of it.

That’s really exactly the same thing that happened with this book. I’ve had, you know, hundreds of blog posts, so many pieces of writing and thoughts and ideas and you know, three years of myself like developing as a coach but also years of going through my own personal health journey, all these things and so when it came to me being like, “You know what? I have written so much. How do I put this together and something that’s just going to read nicely as one book?”

That was honestly the most challenging part and so I started kind of like compiling all of these different blog post that meant the most to me and that made the most sense and then really putting all of those into these five pillars that are now the book was challenging, yeah, but then you know, taking the pieces that existed already, starting to add a new text and tie them all together, put it all into one body of art in my opinion or you know, a piece of work, whatever you want to call it like that was really interesting.

I guess it was a nice way to yeah, bring it back to something I had already experienced before in art school. So I think that was a big challenge but really one that I was super stoked about to be honest.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: You see Robyn, I told you, everything it connects back to that painting in art school. I am telling you, it all connects back to the canvas. No, it’s amazing. I just appreciate your able to like just connect the layers very well for our audience and I think you know, you bring such a visual representation of how we see our health and how we could see our self in a healthy way.

You know, you tapped in this a little bit earlier too. It is just, you know, how we talk to our self has to be the most—the beginning of all of these health elements because it is sometimes, I don’t know, it sometimes feel like you don’t deserve to have a healthy body, mind, spirit, you know, all of these things like the lack of deservedness, right? That we give so much of ourselves away to our world and in our work and those kinds of things.

But I love that your book really puts us back into the perspective of—from our perspective living from our needs.

Robyn Shaw: You are in the driver’s seat. I mean, you said that like take full ownership of it, right? Because it’s your journey.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Can you share a little bit about perhaps like a specific client that you have been working with and notice the transformation in them but more importantly, what transformed within you?

Robyn Shaw: That’s a good question. That is a really good question and you said something already that I can tie it back to, which was you know, when you are talking about trusting the process and results and stuff like that, that’s been a big journey for me as well to help my clients start to measure their success or progress in different ways and so let me kind of explain myself here.

I guess coming from a CrossFit background, I used to be a competitive swimmer, you know, trained as an athlete for a long time, coached a swim team then coached CrossFit like you get into that kind of like sports-specific training and your results and progress are very, you know, it comes down to the weight that you are lifting or the time you swam 50 meters or yes, the number on the scale or your body fat percentage or it is like numbers.

A lot of numbers, right? So I think that’s given me a big appreciation for that objective data to help really map out like use that objective data as a compass, as a guide to like show us if we are moving in the right direction or not.

So there’s that but then there was a point over like me developing as a coach and working with more busy women and I started to transition out of sports-specific training and working with athletes and started to work with more of like the weekend warrior, the busy mom, the new mom like all these like new types of women that I found especially when we transitioned from being in-person coaching to online.

Then, I really had to learn how to help these people identify their success that was not the number on the scale because you know, I would and we went through a tough period where it’s like all my clients are coming to me where they only see X amount of weight loss on a scale and they are frustrated, right? That happens or a pair of jeans they expected to fit into didn’t and again, they’re kind of frustrated.

So for me, I was like, “Well, oh dang” there is a period of time there was like, “Oh dang, these numbers are not lining up to the expectations of this woman. How do I help them feel better about their progress then?” So you know, very quickly had to take a look at their productivity, their energy levels, their relationship that they were having with their kids, the amount of steps they were getting in a day, how much time they were spending outside.

The quality of their food, right? Like were you eating less takeout, are you drinking less pop? All of these other like there is so many more things that matter in my opinion now more than these numbers that I was so focused on for so long, just coming from that background. So I think I didn’t answer your question in the sense of one specific client because that’s happened a couple of times but yeah, there has definitely been that transition of you know, women coming to me.

They are frustrated with their lack of progress or the little progress that they had and now from the very beginning like what I have learned to do is from the very beginning of a coaching journey, if a client comes to me, we from the very start layout expectations and talk about all of them like a plethora of areas in their life that they can have progress and what matters to them the most, right?

So, “Yeah, I want more energy” or “Yeah, I want to have a better relationship with my husband” or I want whatever it is, right? So I think that’s been a really amazing growth, that’s been an amazing growth for me as a coach really helped just opened up our eyes and my eyes and the eyes of my clients to what really, really matters in your progress and that is not to belittle the want and desire to be a certain weight or fit in, you know?

But I think it is just expanding expectations, expanding the possibilities and opportunities of our progress and growth.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: You know, I feel like life in it of itself is an obstacle course, right? I think you know, however one perceives that, whenever you build up your athleticism to, it’s like be fit for the task at hand, which is living life and if you live life with four kids and you got a hectic job and there is things but you know, you enjoy a good portion of it and you need to work on some other parts, it is really just being honest with yourself and saying, “You know, how can I level up so that I can enjoy all of these things in a way that I haven’t before?”

It is looking at yourself and saying, “You know, I can and I am able to do these things but how can I and who could help me get there?” right? It’s people like you that make those differences in people’s lives and I am just appreciative of you sitting down, writing this freaking book even though it took you many tries but that’s the thing, right? It comes from the canvass, it comes from building your body to the way that you want and your health the way you want.

You know, it takes repetition, it takes time and I am glad the book showed you no mercy in a way.

Robyn Shaw: Yeah, oh, I know. I love it. Oh, it’s been a really fun process. Yeah, anyway that’s so awesome. I appreciate that.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: I love that. So tell me if there was one thing you wish the reader walks away with from your book, what would that one thing be?

Robyn Shaw: Oh man, like it could be like one action and there is so many little bits of like actionable kind of things to kind scattered in the book and if you can put down the book and have one clear action item that you feel so a 110% confident that you can execute if not daily, regularly for life and that really could be again, “I’m going to drink more water. I am going to get outside for 10 minutes in the morning.”

I am going to meditate for five minutes every day, I mean, whatever it is, right? And there is so many little things that you can choose from kind of scattered throughout the book but if you are able to put that book down and start acting for yourself on yourself, then that to me is a huge win because it’s in my opinion, it’s not about the elaborate strategic plan that’s going to get you from point A to point B and all of the time.

That it’s really about, “Okay, what can I do today that’s going to help me be a little bit better?” because if you can do that, there is no way that you can’t move forward.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Robyn, I learned so much today. Thank you for sharing your stories and your experiences with me today. I really appreciate it. The book is called, Hustle but Healthy: The Five Pillars of Sustainable Wellness and Weight Loss for the Busy Woman. Besides checking out the book, where can people find you Robyn?

Robyn Shaw: I’m all over the place. I am on social media. So the best place to probably find me would be on social media @hustlebuthealthy on Instagram and TikTok. I have an amazing group of people on there and then BODZii is the name of my coaching company. So is where you can find a lot of information about yeah, what we’re actually doing and how our coaching process works.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: I love that. Thanks again for coming on the show. I appreciate you. Congratulations on your book. I wish you nothing but pure healthy success.

Robyn Shaw: I appreciate you. Thank you so much.