Justin Breen considers himself a results-in guy. He’s great at making things happen but not so great at generating awesome ideas. But that hasn’t stopped him from creating an epic business and life. What Breen lacks in ideation, he makes up for, in his ability to recognize when an amazing idea is presented to him. The concepts that rule his life and success evolved from conversations with innovators.

Learn the 30 transformational ideas, Breen has gathered from some of the world’s top business leaders. Each idea in a chapter concludes with simplified takeaways to help you think and take action to incorporate them into your own business and life. The author of the international bestseller Epic Business is back with Epic Life and in this sequel, he details how the ideas within, led to create and build two successful global companies all while spending more time with his friends and family. Start your journey to creating your epic life today. 

Here’s my conversation with Justin Breen.

Welcome to The Author Hour Podcast, I’m your host Benji Block thrilled to have Justin Breen here with me today. He has just come out with a new book titled, Epic Life: How to Build Collaborative Global Companies While Putting Your Loved Ones First. Justin, great to chat with you.

Justin Breen: Yeah, I’m excited to talk, this will be an interesting conversation.

Benji Block: For sure and now, this is not you, coming to the table with your first book. This is a follow-up to Epic Business. So tell me a little bit of what brought you back for seconds and the genesis of Epic Life.

Justin Breen: Yeah, it’s an interesting thing because I’m very low on ideation on the strength finders, which is incredibly rare for a visionary entrepreneur. There are 34 strength finders and I’m 32 out of 34 in ideation. So most of the people I talk to are one, two, or three or four or five in ideation. They’re endless ideas. I have very few good ones but if an ideator with a good idea presents a good idea for me or if on the very rare occasion I have the good one myself, my top three are activate, maximize, and achieve.

So immediate, simplify and then immediate result, result, result and so, the first book, epic business was a good idea from someone else. They’re like, “Oh, you have to write a book about how you built a global company with zero business background” like, “Okay, that’s a good idea, activate, maximize, achieve” and then, this book, people are like, “Wait a minute, you put your family first, you do what you like to do and what you’re good at, you just keep raising your rates exponentially and only partner with the people that you want to and you won’t let this life destroy your family life, then you should write a book on that.” I’m like, “Okay, that’s a good idea, I’ll do that.” So, if I maximize, it’s pretty simple, very simple.

Benji Block: I love that, result, result, result. Give us some more context because you’re saying kind of where you are now, I’d love to maybe have you fill in the gaps a little bit as to I know, what was it, back in 2017, you’re a journalist, salary gets cut in half and that was this big, the “aha moment” of like, “Okay, I’m going to go out on my own here” which is scary but fill in the gaps on there on what led you to where you are today, Justin.

Starting the Business

Justin Breen: Yeah, I mean, I appreciate asking that. So, people are either born someone like me, or they’re not. I mean, I strongly feel that. I think most people would say, “Oh hey, you can make as much money as you want, you can do whatever you want to do and what you like to do, you can hang out with the people that you want to hang out with, you can create companies from a good idea with execution.”

So, most people would choose that but then, you’re like, “Well, you probably have to go through one of the following four things, sometimes two or three” and then I talk a lot of all four so those four things are bankruptcy or potential bankruptcy, two depressions, three the high sellable things that you can imagine and four, likely and/or possible traumatic experiences as a child or young adult.

So then 99% of the world, 99.9% of the world stops at those. That’s why they’re employees, they’re consultants or small business owners, they’re not global entrepreneurs and that’s fine by the way, that’s fine, the world needs more people like that, otherwise, nothing will get done. So, with that background, you know, I was always an entrepreneur who happen to be a journalist, a journalist who had no idea what I was talking about, and I didn’t understand what they were complaining about or why they were covering negative news.

So, I was always born to be this person, I just didn’t know it until my job salary was cut in half and I couldn’t find a job. I reached out to 5,000 people to find the first five clients while I was working full-time at half salary and then got the fifth client, resigned the next day, and then Robert Feeder, he taught me to call the mid-west to the story I started my firm. So, most people can’t do that, they’re not meant to do that but I was.

Benji Block: Okay, I got a follow-up question there because you give those four as things that you see are differentiators. How did you come up with those four, is it almost like—it feels like, okay, you extreme, you’re hitting some sort of extreme moment where you either choose to press through or choose to remain and let that be the wall, be the ceiling for you.

So, is that a decision that people make, or do you think that that’s like, their nature and they were never going to breakthrough, if they had a big financial crisis where they have a bunch of anxiety, they’re just, their temperament is their limiter.

Justin Breen: Yeah, so that’s one of the better questions anyone’s ever asked me because it’s a deep dive into a very simple thing that I see over and over. You like talking to people, I was a journalist for 20 years and did two to three stories on deadline every day. I had thousands and thousands and thousands of people. 

Since starting my first company, I have two now, a little over five years ago, talked to thousands and thousands and thousands of people and most of my day now is spending time with my family, my wife, and two young sons who are eight and nine and the other part of my day is talking to the world’s top entrepreneurs. So not business owners, not consultants, I mean, it’s the top.

I see the same pattern over and over and over and I see at least one of those four things. I have not met one person at the highest level that has not dealt with at least one of those four things, most are two or three and then, it’s been very interesting as I’ve gotten higher up on the food chain, I see more all fours. It used to be one or two, then it was a lot. I’m three out of the four, there was only one, knock on wood, I haven’t had to worry about bankruptcy or potential bankruptcy.

But I see a lot of all fours, a lot of all fours now and so to your question and your point’s a good one, that’s why it was such a good question is that most people use those as excuses their whole lives, that’s why they’re not a global entrepreneur. That’s funny and I like that, which is again, that’s fine, that’s fine but an entrepreneur at the highest level would never make an excuse with one of those. 

They would just execute, they would just figure it out. At the highest level, there are no excuses, only execution, and investment. That’s what separates entrepreneurs from everyone else, that’s all it is.

Benji Block: Yup, which does lead to an easy kind of tee ball, the underhand question at you that teases up perfectly. Who are you writing this for then? Because if the mentality is that there are these people that are going to just, no excuses, are you writing for them, are you writing for someone that’s at a moment where they might have an epiphany choice, what’s the thought?

Justin Breen: Yeah, it’s another good question. So the conversations I have now are even more interesting than they were when I started my first company a little over five years ago because I didn’t know I was this person until I just kept realizing, “Oh well, the only people that understand me are the top entrepreneurs in the world.” I spent most of my first 40 years in the wrong room with the wrong people because no one had any idea what I was talking about and then I’m like, “Oh, I finally found the people who understood what I was talking about.”

That just happened to be, you know, top thinking, global entrepreneurs like “Oh, this makes sense, finally” I kept making bigger investments instead of being in a small room. So that was the answer there but, in the conversations, I have now, I talked to one to two people a week and again, most of my day is talking to the world’s top entrepreneurs. One to two a week that have let entrepreneur life destroy their family life or prevent them from ever having a family, ever and I’m a dad who happens to be an entrepreneur. 

I’m a husband who happens to be an entrepreneur. I’m not an entrepreneur who happens to be a dad, there’s a very fundamental difference between them and so this book is for those people and then, for people who are entrepreneurs, maybe don’t know it yet but they are and then you know, can realize that they don’t have to destroy their family life for this life. They don’t have to do it or they don’t have to not have a family to be entrepreneurs, you don’t have to be like that.

I’m living proof, that a lot of the people I talk to are living proof and then each one of the chapters is like, how this happened and again, I’m very low on ideation so basically, every idea in the book is from someone else and then I activate, maximize, achieve that into real life, real-time.

Benji Block: Yeah, which also shows, and I say this as a compliment but the shortness of the chapters, I can tell how your brain works. 

Justin Breen: Yeah, most people talk too much with no action, unless you’re talking to someone like you, I don’t like to say anything. It’s going on, right?

Benji Block: Yup. Okay, so, let’s talk about family for a second and we’ll start with your father, a World War II hero. Came from nothing, if I get this right, shot down nine times in combat, super self-made, and becomes a president of an insurance company, we have a Chicago connection. I know Elder, Illinois for you guys and my parents are up in the suburbs, the Darian area.

Chicago represents but tells me a little bit about him and his impact on you because you start this book with lessons learned from your dad.

Justin Breen: Well, it’s family first and it’s the ultimate lesson and so my dad was 61 when I was born. He’d be 106 if he was alive now. 106 and so as you said, World War II hero, shot down many times in combat, many times without a parachute, got back in the plane because you don’t – there are no excuses, you get back in the plane.

So that’s my litmus test, you get back on the plane. So genetically, I’m capable of being someone like this for sure. But, so, he was alive until I was 13 and every day, pretty much he said, the cream rises to the top. I just, you know, that stuck with me, and then, he was a dad first with me in my two younger brothers and my older half-sister. He was a dad first.

My mom was out hustling in a good way while he was raising us. But – so, I just partnered with the cream that rises to the top of the people that will get back in the plane without a parachute and they’ll do whatever it takes because there are no excuses, you get back in the plane. It’s been a good litmus test and that’s the most important lesson in the book. 

Benji Block: Before you become an entrepreneur and you’re back in your journalist days, let’s say, how did you use that phrase, the cream rises to the top as motivation or as a fuel internally and how did it help you decide for your outlook on the world.

Cream Rises to the Top

Justin Breen: Yeah, that’s another good question because journalism is a very competitive world, and to get to the Chicago market, which is where I was as an editor and reporter when jobs salary was cut in half, it took 15 years going from small paper to medium paper, to a pretty large paper.

Every job you can imagine in journalism, and then finally, got the break to get into the Chicago market and so it’s certainly not comparable to entrepreneur life in terms of those four things, those four things. But it’s a decent start to understanding that rejection, and I apply for every job in the Chicago market. Actually, it was the perfect fit for me because it prepared me for my first company but it just takes time, and then eventually, the cream rises to the top. 

So, that was my goal, is to be an editor or reporter in Chicago and I was able to do that and then when my job salary was cut in half, it’s like, “Well, there goes 20 years of your life” and so figure something out, get back in the plane without a parachute. So that was what the first company is and then you know, the first book summed up how I was able to do that and now, have two companies and then the second book sums up how I haven’t destroyed my family life or prevented it from having a family and now building two great global companies.

Benji Block: So, let’s talk about that because coming off talking about your dad as well, I wonder how your family is set up now with your—also, you have the entrepreneur side of you, right? But you said, you’re a dad first, entrepreneur second. What does that look like, are you able to just keep them completely separate with the way your brain works, or are you like, I just wonder how that plays out in reality in your home, like, what are the safeguards in place to execute on that type of thought that I am a dad first.

Justin Breen: So, that is a fascinating use of safeguard because the conversations I have with my children are all about entrepreneurship. My sons are nine and eight and so we talk about simplifier versus multiplier. We talk about someone’s clipped-in strength finders, we talk about their Colby scores. We talk about the freedom of what having a company means in terms of like, spending time with the kids and making as much money as you want. There’s no safeguard in that regard, and in that regard, it’s the opposite of that, it’s a freedom guard, a—

Benji Block: Talk about our passions, we talk about, yup.

Justin Breen: Yeah, right, yeah, so and most kids don’t—I mean, I didn’t even know what this life was, I had no idea. That’s the greatest part of being an entrepreneur is that my kids get to see this world even exist. So we’ll combine that, and we’ll simplify it. I just took my kids on a baseball trip around the Midwest, this isn’t in the book, this just happened a couple of weeks ago, but we went to five cities in five days, five baseball games and just do whatever I want to. 

We got great seats at every park and did whatever we want to. My wife is a stabilizing human, so, she’s a pediatrician. I think the opposite of me, that would be my wife and so, we just said, men’s time for a week and just talked about all the cool things that we were doing and so that’s how it’s combined but there’s no separation from it. Meaning like, and that’s the whole point, like, you can put your family first and be an entrepreneur. 

You don’t have to separate your family and in fact, it’s the opposite of that. It actually, bonds the family as opposed to destroying it. I’m glad you asked that because this is how I learn in real-time, it’s a magnet, it’s a natural magnet that is supposed to be a safeguard or a divider which is interesting to me, so thank you for asking that question like that.

Benji Block: Let me ask one more question there then, specifically about your relationship with your wife because I know it can be a learning curve when someone speaks essentially like a different language in some ways, right? What does that development look like, the evolution of understanding each other, holding space for one another?

Justin Breen: Okay, so my dad got back in the plane multiple times without a parachute after he was shot down. Two, my mom was 27 when I was born. Most of my day is talking to the world’s top entrepreneurs. I’ve never met anyone in my life with more hustle than my mom, ever. I’ve never. If you meet someone with more hustle than my mom, who ultimately survives and thrives, I’d like to meet that person. I don’t think I will, but it would be interesting. 

My wife and, our first date was in the days before she started medical school. She’s again, a pediatrician so if there’s anything comparable to this life, it is going through medical school, I’d be the worst doctor ever, and she’d be the worst entrepreneur ever but there’s mutual respect of what we’ve gone through is mutual respect. 

Okay, she’s a perfect balance for my go for it, go for it, go for it with her kindness, love, empathy, and incredible intelligence but go for it in her way. Most people can’t get through medical school, they don’t have the brains for that. They don’t, that’s why the world doesn’t have that many doctors, so they flame out. There’s common respect, there’s common respect. 

But I will say is as I’ve evolved as an entrepreneur, she has evolved as someone who takes more chances in life. She does things that she never would have done before ever that she, she’s like, “Oh, let’s just do that. Let’s invest in that. Let’s go on this vacation” like, “Oh, great. Perfect” and that’s been such a wonderful thing to see and then from my perspective, she’s taught me to be a human in some capacity. 

She taught me how to say thank you and be like, “Hey, you’ve got to pick your kids up” so that’s important, you know that’s important as well. My wife taught me how to say thank you to people and so I am very grateful for that and so the way I jokingly say it, but I am not joking is she’s taught me to be human in some capacity, and then I have given her the gift of taking more chances in life. 

It has been a great evolution every single year to see what continues to happen. In both books, it’s always funny because people write this long thing that they’re thankful for at the start of the book. I just thank my wife in both of them because without her, I’m in a ditch somewhere, not a good situation. 

Benji Block: Oh, I love that, and I think talking about the family side is so important to, I mean, important enough that you include it in the subtext of the book, putting your loved ones first, right? Coming off of that, I want to talk about actually core values and you talk about how over the years you’ve crafted core values for the work you do. You have three words, abundance, visionary, and investment. 

Talk about that, how do your core values, and how do you see those as a filter that you run everything through? 

Core Values

Justin Breen: Yes, so you’re a simplifier like me. What my brain does is, “Here’s blah-blah-blah, blah-blah-blah-blah” and then it simplifies everything into patterns. I don’t know why my brain does that but that’s what it—so those four things, my dad happens to be an entrepreneur, it just simplifies it, and then the book is just simplified, simplification in each chapter. Okay, so visionary, abundance, investment, you know that’s the cream that rises to the top. 

What does that mean? In my company, we only partner with visionaries who live in abundance and who look at things as investments, not costs. There is no scarcity, there’s no, “What do you cost or charge?” there’s no nickel and diming, and there’s no material measurement stuff. I figured that’s point one percent of the world’s population. I think it’s less than that but 0.1% is easy enough to understand and most people live in scarcity. 

Most of the world lives in scarcity, which is fine. I just ignore that, but most people are like, “Oh, 0.1% that’s a small number” I go, “No-no-no, you don’t live in abundance” so if there are eight billion people, 0.1% of eight billion is eight million. Eight million people is a lot, it’s a lot of people, and the eight million, if you look at your company, Tucker Max. There is eight million Tucker Max’s and so Tucker Max creates the things that employ everyone else. 

I partner with the Tucker Max’s of the world because they are the ones that create the opportunities that everyone else benefits from. So that’s the visionary, abundance, investment mindset. That is the visionary, abundance, investment mentality. That’s the cream that rises to the top and I didn’t know I was one of those people until I had to go through this and then just realize, “Oh those are the people that understand what I am talking about.” 

I just partner with people like that because they’re the ones that change the world and that allows me to change the world. 

Benji Block: I’m always fascinated by word choice because I think core values do matter. I am someone that likes to simplify. I am someone that thinks if you come back to some core themes, you essentially are giving yourself a filter to run your life through, your business through. 

Justin Breen: That’s exact, yeah, I put the filter. That’s on. 

Benji Block: Yes, having a filter, knowing your lens, actually choosing your lens I think is vital to seeing any sort of success or the outcome that you want. I love having conversations around values and I’d assume and correct me if I am wrong here but because you are creating your company, those words are also I guess personal core values that you can just translate right into the business. 

Justin Breen: Yeah, it’s just an extension of purpose. I mean, it’s kind of funny because I have never been a business owner. I don’t care about revenue, employee count like again, that’s business owner consultant stuff. I don’t care about any of that. You don’t get into journalism for revenue, employee count, or office space. Well, maybe a little office but so like it’s always been about the purpose and changing the world. 

Then I never understood if it bleeds, it leads. I never understood political news or negative news. I don’t understand any of that stuff. I was always writing about cool people changing the world and now through both companies, writing about and connecting cool people changing the world. So it’s just cool people changing the world, I didn’t know it when I was a journalist but they’re just visionary and wanted some investment. 

Those are the words that make sense, it was the same people. I just was able to get those words. So that’s one, two is that the filter is the key. The filter is the key, so my entire filter is this, this is why I like the word filter is that if I talk to someone and I’ll know immediately because I just talk to top entrepreneurs around the world all day. So if I talk to someone who is going to take time away from me and my family, I will never talk to that person again. 

If I talk to someone and I know they can add value to me and I can add value to them and will not take time away from being with my family, I will talk to them forever. So that is my entire filter. That is all it is.

Benji Block: One of the pieces if I was charting this out, the abundance that one of the ways you execute on that core value is a commitment towards an attitude of gratitude, right? Those things flow together and so like on LinkedIn, you are regularly posting these gratitude posts, things that you are thankful for and it flows out of this developed writing habit. So talk me through that and how long have you been doing that? How has it impacted your outlook to go gratitude is going to be just a staple in my life. 

Justin Breen: Well, gratitude is a filter and so good patterns become good habits. So a good gratitude pattern becomes a good gratitude habit and if you are constantly grateful, it’s hard to be ungrateful. Okay, so there’s the background with that. If you are constantly grateful, it is hard to be ungrateful. So the first thing I do every day is a gratitude journal to my wife, what I’m grateful to her in the previous 24 hours because again, without my wife it’s not a good situation. 

Benji Block: What kind of things are you writing there Justin? Because someone is thinking, “Okay, every 24 hours” I mean, how specific are you getting? 

Justin Breen: Right, another good question. Yeah, so my wife planned a great dinner, she picked up the kids at school, and she had a great day at work. 

Benji Block: It’s training your eye to notice even the small things on there. 

Justin Breen: Anything. Well, so my wife, the most important thing for her is for someone to say thank you to her. That’s the most but for me, I don’t care. I mean, if someone says thank you to me, fine. I don’t care but my wife needs to be needed and appreciated. That is her most – that it is the opposite of me. I don’t care if anyone appreciates me except for her I guess and my kids but unconsciously, I am not motivated by that, she is. 

I do that consciously; I write it down every single day. I have done that for a long time and then the gratitude journal, which you mentioned on LinkedIn, I’m only imagining the number because a lot of people see it, but I have about 30,000 followers on LinkedIn and so every Monday through Friday I do a gratitude journal and I’ll include this on that but what I’m grateful for each day. 

So, an interview, working with a new PR partner. I had a great meeting with my network partner, Mark Fujiwara, the client was in a great media qualification. I had a great meeting with somebody new. If you are constantly grateful, it is a filter that repels ungrateful people and it’s a filter that attracts grateful people, that’s what it does. 

Benji Block: All right, the final question then and it is going to stick right there on patterns in developing these types of things. It is actually where you go in chapter two. I found it very intriguing to just simplify it and use that word, pattern but talk about that. What are some of the most helpful patterns that you’ve developed? How are you actively jotting those down, looking for those things? 

I think we can glean something from that as we come up for air here at the end of the conversation. 


Justin Breen: Okay, thank you and so talk talking to me is meaningless without result and action, okay? So it is meaningless to me because a lot of people talk and they don’t do anything and I don’t understand that it is completely – like ideas without execution to me are completely meaningless. That’s why ideators are very thankful for me because I simplify all their blah-blah-blah and execute it. 

Okay, so what I learned and simplified in that chapter is and I’ll simplify so people can understand why there are results and why there’s action. In five years as an entrepreneur, five plus years, I have partnered with one person that I know of, only one and I write about him, Jayson Lowe, very thankful for him. A whole chapter is devoted to him but only partnered with one person I know of under a seven quick start in Kolbe. 

The true visionary is an eight, nine, or ten, ten is the highest. I am guessing you are an eight or nine quick start. I am a seven, so I am right on the border. So lower quick start folks, I will talk to them but then it’s like, you know, it is up to them whether they come around. I am not spending my time on that because they’re going to take forever to make a decision and again, five years as an entrepreneur, one person under a seven-point start. 

Okay, two that’s the most important one for people who want to get stuff done very quickly, high quick start with Kolbe. Two, the overwhelming majority of the people I partner with in Clifton, Gallup, strength finders, the overwhelming majority are ideation, futurist, in terms of top five. They have at least one of those and so they’re often ideal in future land, but they have a mix of activating or maximize or achiever in there as well. 

So they are often the idea of future land but they’ll do something about it now. Okay, so if you’re often future land, you don’t do anything. That one’s torture too, that’s a pointless conversation. So I am very low in futuristic, again, almost dead last in ideation but if I talk to a futuristic ideator who will do something about it now, my top three are activated, maximize, and achieve. 

So immediately simplify all the blah-blah-blah and then immediate result, result, result and never stop, just continue with results. So that is perfect collaboration, perfect partnership because I have simplified their lives and they create the ideas that changed the world. Okay, so that’s two and then the third one is print. That is the unconscious motivator. Again, my wife is a two-six. She’d be a terrible entrepreneur because she needs to be needed and appreciated and feel safe and secure. 

That is not an entrepreneur. Good employee but not – and so my print score is eight-three. Eight is to be strong and self-reliant and three is to succeed in achieving. The overwhelming majority of the folks that I talk to, and partner with are our eight-threes or three-eights. My partner, Mark Fujiwara is a three-eight, and the two folks I just signed with for Pa R firm in the last week, are both eight threes and nine quick starts by the way. 

So if you see, I just see the same patterns over and over. If you know the answer, then activate, maximize, and achieve. I know the answer. 

Benji Block: Yep. Once you have that level of clarity as well, that’s just going to speed everything up. I appreciate you breaking that down. My curiosity has peaked one more time, so I said it was the last question, but I got one to follow up here. When did you start getting this into these types of assessments and things and find that level of clarity? Because you like to simplify. 

I am sure the power of patterns is kind of always been prevalent even when you didn’t have that terminology but when did that rise to the top going, “Oh, there’s these assessments” having that sort of clarity brings a lot of value to you. 

Justin Breen: Yep. I like to be the dumbest, one of the dumbest people in the room. If I am not that, then I am in the wrong room. The first couple of years as an entrepreneur, I was not in the right room. Whether it was consultants and business owners and/or even some employees and I had no idea what they were complaining about or why they weren’t thinking so big and then they didn’t know what I was talking about. 

So about three years ago, I joined Strategic Coach, which I am very confident in saying top entrepreneur group in the world, Tucker Max has been in it for a long time. He is an eight quick start and so I saw through there and then other groups that I have been in these assessments and one of my mentors is Gary Clayven. He is most at peace when he is driving 200 miles an hour and then he graduated first in his Army Ranger’s class. 

I understand that. I would have been a good soldier for sure and then I am most at peace when I am driving very fast, very fast because I am focused and then he is a coach and strategic coach and so before joining, he’s like, “Oh take your Colby” and then when I took it, he saw my score and he was really confused. He looked at me funny because I am eight, six, seven, and none. He has never met and I have never met another eight, six, seven, one.

Colby was a high quick start, high follow through and high fact finder and the high fact finder is what kicked in with the Cold these other assessments. 

Benji Block: Interesting. 

Justin Breen: As a journalist, I used it for like weird facts and like I think kind of how you use it for this type of interview. So maybe you’re a little higher than a three-fact finder, maybe six. So now, I just use it to recognize patterns and that’s what chapter two is about and that’s what I’ve realized my greatest strength is, is I can see these patterns at a very high level, and, more importantly, I’ll do something about it. I’ll just execute it. 

Benji Block: Well Justin, this has been a fascinating conversation. I’m glad that I can push people to go pick up the book, Epic Life so that they can dive deeper into these concepts but also, you guys, you can read it in probably one sitting, which is fantastic, and then it is just up to you and Justin would say this too, just actually go take action and do. 

Justin Breen: Do it, yeah. Well, if [inaudible 0:30:52.8] in the world will do it and if they’re not, then they won’t, that’s it. 

Benji Block: Yep, that’s why I tried asking you very few questions like getting people in the right mindset. Hopefully, I didn’t do that because I know that would be a bother, right? You either have it or you don’t. So Justin, well besides checking out the book, where can people reach out? What is the best way for them to stay connected? 

Justin Breen: So I would be remiss if I didn’t mention how grateful I am that Dr. Peter Diamandis wrote the forward for Epic Life. I mean Peter, he’s the founder of X Prize, leads Abundance 360, which is another group I’m in and he is one of the top entrepreneurs in the world. So for him to write the forward, I’m incredibly grateful for that. He does not do that and I’m just very grateful that he did it. 

So I strongly recommend people get the book just to read the forward because Peter, I mean, you know I saying say, if someone like that wrote the forward it’s a very big deal and then two, I am all over the place but LinkedIn is fine, Justin Breen on LinkedIn and then on my LinkedIn page, there is a mindset survey score card that you can take. It takes five minutes and then you’ll quickly see if you have this mindset, or you don’t. 

If you do, great and if you don’t, you’ll see, “Oh maybe I need to work on that” so people love taking it. 

Benji Block: Fantastic. Well again, the book is called, Epic Life: How to Build Collaborative Global Companies While Putting Your Loved Ones First. Justin Breen, thank you for stopping by Author Hour. I know this book is going to be a fantastic resource to so many. 

Justin Breen: Thank you, Mr. Author Benji. I appreciate it. 

Benji Block: Absolutely.