As a physician, your skills help you earn an income well above the national average, but life is expensive. Between financial illiteracy and an increase in living expenses, financial education has never been more vital. And for women physicians facing systemic oppression, it’s often a rare commodity.

Welcome to the Author Hour Podcast. I’m your host Hussein Al-Baiaty, and I’m joined by author, Dr. Latifat Akintade, who is here to talk about her new book, Done with Broke: The Woman Physician’s Guide to More Money and Less Hustle. Let’s flip through it.

Hello friends and welcome back to the show. I’m here with my friend, Latifat Akintade today, and I’m super excited because her book is absolutely remarkable. It’s going to be so helpful to so many people, but first of all, I’d like to welcome Dr. Latifat. How are you?

Latifat Akintade: I am doing fantastic. I am so excited to be here and glad that I get to chat with you today.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yeah, me too. I was literally sitting at your table when you came to Scribe and started your work, and it’s such a privilege to watch authors come to the table, get their things together, outline their books, and have a vision and they bring it to life. I get to have the privilege of watching those journeys unfold, and your journey is obviously huge because you have a very unique story but also, a purpose.

Your book, Done With Broke: The Woman Physician’s Guide to More Money and Less Hustle, is just that. It’s amazing because I hear so many physicians out there, or stories about physicians out there that struggle financially. Even though they’re making good money, at least, to society it sounds like being a doctor, make sure you earn good money and all that good stuff.

However, I know I’ve learned it through business, it’s not how much money you make, but how much money you keep. The way you go about your book and the stories that you share are so powerful. I’m so glad you’re here. Thank you for joining me. I really want to get into the juiciness of the book, but before that, I really want to talk to you about it and have you share about your personal background a little bit.

Perhaps where you grew up, what it was like for you, and maybe a person or an event that sort of inspired you to be on the path that you’re on to becoming and working as a physician.

Latifat Akintade: No, absolutely, thank you so much. I’m really excited to be here, and honestly, to say that I cannot believe that I’m having this conversation with you would be an understatement. And the reason why is because my journey to where I’m at today is not what I ever thought it was going to be.

Me writing a book, me talking about money and, in fact, maybe even a physician, honestly, were not things that I thought — I mean, I hoped it would happen, the physician part of it, but if I look at my journey from where it started, and for those that do not know me, which I’m as human as a lot of your audience. I grew up in Nigeria, I moved to the United States about twenty-something years ago.

I’ve always wanted to be a physician from a young age, which, to be honest with you, I have zero idea how that came about because my parents were not college educated. My dad had a business, my mom would stay home for a lot of our lives because she had seven kids; six girls and a boy. I remember her biggest fear was that the girls were going to get older and everyone’s going to get pregnant at the age of twelve.

She [was] like, “I’d better keep an eye on this crazy kid.” So my mom was a stay-at-home mom, which I’m super grateful for, but I moved here to be a physician, really. But the path wasn’t one that was always straight. I didn’t know what the journey was going to look like. We first came here with my siblings to Los Angeles and had the privilege of being hosted by family members.

My aunt, who’s now late, unfortunately, and my uncle. They played a huge part in my life, and I’m really grateful for how they impacted our journey. But they also were not physicians, so I didn’t know how I was going to get here. It’s literally through the impact of mentorship, and good advisors that I’ve been able to navigate this journey.

And a dose, a huge dose of stubbornness and determination to be honest with you is what let me through learning how to be a physician. I went to UCLA for undergrad, UCSF for medical school, and I’m really just grateful for the path that has led me to where I am today, which is to be a physician and specifically, a gastroenterologist.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Wow, what a journey. I’m so glad you articulated that so beautifully. And it is a beautiful journey, and I’m so grateful because, in a lot of ways, I relate to that kind of journey, where I got to come to the States and have tons of people in my life and in my journey. I never thought I would go to architecture school or anything like that, but this is where I find a lot of connections, right?

Because as we come from different countries, we see in the distance what the vision can be but man, it is not a straight road. Like you said, it is very windy and sometimes you feel like you end up in a cul-de-sac where you’re just like, “I’m stuck.” But yes, stubbornness and, of course, eagerness get to where you want to be.

So congratulations on that journey, I mean, it’s beautiful and I’m glad I get to experience it alongside you here. I want to talk about a little bit the importance of not only becoming a physician but also the importance of financial education for physicians. What made you realize that that was an important factor in what you were doing? Was that something you were always good at or not so good at? How did you wake up to this realization?

Latifat Akintade: Oh my goodness, I was horrible with money. I knew zero about money. In fact, I went through my entire medical education without any financial education. We’d learn a lot of stuff, amazing, helpful stuff in medical school but financial education isn’t one that is included in our training. I went through undergrad, med school, three years of internal medicine residency, and then another additional three years of training after that.

The longer the training, literally, I should tell you that I was hecka broke. That was the whole point of that, so I knew zero about money, and because my entire goal was to be a physician. I wanted to be the best doctor that I could be and I’m really grateful for the path that I took, the education, the mentorship, the patience, everybody that taught me throughout my journey to be who I am today.

But what happened though was at the end of my training — at that point, I had two kids, and I now have three. I remember looking around, and I’m so glad that for some reason, this was a time when people weren’t necessarily talking a lot about burnout in medicine. I looked around, and I saw that a lot of my attendants were burnt out. People were tired, shoulders slumped, and these were amazingly smart people. I always tell people that if you want to be inspired, go read the personal statement of a physician or someone that wants to be a physician.

We go into this field because we want to change the world. We care deeply about people. Nobody in their right mind would sacrifice their twenties and thirties to learning, spending sixty to eighty hours in a hospital, missing out on a lot of stuff in their twenties, not going out clubbing, not partying when their peers were doing that, being broke, going into debt, and acquiring like USD 250,000 averagely in debt, without caring about the purpose and mission for which they’re doing it.

We went into this to care about people but unfortunately, the way that the healthcare system is created, unfortunately, can lead to a natural path of disempowering physicians. I had this moment where — I’m so grateful for — where I just realized that if I did not have my money shit together — can I say “shit” on this podcast?

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Latifat Akintade: All right, great, I’m a GI doctor. I say “shit” all day.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yeah, I mean this ain’t Disney, this is my show.

Latifat Akintade: Okay good. Hey, just ought to be sure, just want to make sure I’m on the right channel here, right? I knew that in order for me to be the kind of doctor I wanted to be, in order for me to create the kind of impact that I wanted to be able to create, in order for me to be able to practice medicine with authenticity and courage and honesty, I knew that I had to have the power to be able to walk at any time.

I knew that I had to have the power. You know, my roof, my shelter, my kid’s food was not dependent solely on someone walking into the clinic and saying, “I don’t like the fact that you’re taking too much time with patients and you’re not meeting some ridiculous metrics, you’re out of here.” And I wish that was false. I wish that was a myth but unfortunately, there are physicians that are amazing, that are excellent, that I will trust my entire life and my family’s life, and my family too that unfortunately, sometimes are fired for no just cause.

Maybe they need to go take care of their health issues and they’re like, “Sorry, we cannot accommodate that, you’re fired.” Stuff like that should really not be happening. So for me, the way that I think about it, money is a tool that helps physicians be excellent physicians. Money is a tool that helps physicians stay in the game, not because they don’t have a choice but because they want to. And if you truly want to see someone that’s excellent at their art, they are the people that have a choice.

They’re not there because that’s the only thing they can do, they’re not there because they can’t pay their bills, they’re not there because they’re afraid of their lack of voice. They are there because they’re like, “I want to be here with what I call two butt checks,” meaning like, with full authenticity and speak to you because it’s like, “I could be anywhere else, but I care about you, and I want to be here.”

That’s the whole reason why I had to learn money for myself and that’s how and why I teach other physicians and specifically, women physicians to know money, to have money without hustle, without grinding but in the way that takes focus, commitment, intentionality. Because when we do that, it’s going to create a different breed of physicians, which I believe is what the world needs today.

Making Financial Moves

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Yeah, that’s so powerful. Latifat, you have such deep passion for not only your work but the craft of your work, and also other physicians, and over these airwaves, I could just feel your passion and energy towards wanting to help other people become free of this idea of, the idea of feeling like, “I have to do this” and it’s, “I get to do this.” And really, that fine line of financial stability, financial understanding.

That’s how you become a great artist, like you said, you show up and not worry about this other thing, that that is taken care of and that you’re not forcing yourself to be there. That’s very powerful, and that mindset, that mind shift of thinking about your craft in that way and not walking around with slumped shoulders and feeling the burnout.

So, how did you start making this move on your own to figure out, “Okay, this is something I have to do, and I have to understand my financial state, what it looks like” all these good things? How did that journey start? Take me down that story of making these moves.

Latifat Akintade: The start was not fun at all because here I was, a physician who knew nothing about money. I had spent sixty to eighty hours in hospitals at that point, learning and taking care of patients. So for me, I had lots of thoughts, and the thoughts were not very helpful. The thoughts were, “I’m already too late, everybody else knows about money, and I don’t,” right? How am I going to say I know nothing about money and people are going to be able to trust that I’m smart enough to be a physician?

I looked around and the only spaces that existed unfortunately at that time were hard for me to come out and say, “I need help with money,” because everybody looked like they knew it. So I thought that was a classic med school that I escaped, which that class didn’t happen, right? I had all those reasons in my head for why I couldn’t learn money, but then the reasons that I just shared with you right now were the reasons that I had for why I had to learn money.

I wanted to be able to practice with authenticity. I wanted to be able to make sure that the sacrifices of everybody that had invested in my life, including my mother who I didn’t see for five years because she was in Nigeria then, I wanted to make sure that their sacrifices were not in vain. And for me, if I could not practice medicine by choice, their sacrifice was going to be in vain.

Also, at that point, I had two kids. I did not want to be a parent that I would keep making excuses and saying, “I did not have a choice.” If I’m going to do something and not be there physically for my kid, it’s because I believe in it. It’s because I want to go there and take care of a patient. I want to go there and save a life. I want to go there and comfort someone, right? So I just did not want a life of excuses.

So even though there were those fears, my why became strong, and it was those why’s that really became what pivoted me into going into what felt like a dark hole for figuring out how to do money. And honestly, the process wasn’t sexy. It literally was me going online and going, “Okay, people said I need to learn how to budget. Like, what is a budget? How to budget?” Especially if you hate math. I do not like math.

I got 100% in calculus in college because I pretty much did every single extra credit that you could find in this world, and I did great, but it doesn’t mean I’m good at math, right? So I knew that I had to figure out how to do money in a way that didn’t take a lot of time because I’m like, “I’m busy, I don’t have time. I don’t like math, I don’t like spreadsheets.” So literally, I had to learn what was out there but then now go into figuring out, “Now that I know what people are doing, how do I create something for myself that makes sense in English?”

How do I translate this jargon into what is not boring and going to put me to sleep, right? What is going to be interesting and what is going to be successful, despite the things that I thought I sucked at? And so that’s how I had to create it for myself. So it’s as simple as things like, instead of budgeting, what is a spending plan? How do I tell my money where to go? How do I redirect my –

I literally had to change the communication of money in my head and do it for myself because, again, listen, I was so bad at this that I didn’t even for a second imagine that I would be teaching anybody how to do it. So that was not even on my radar at all, I was just there to fix my own shit, literally, and that’s the path that took me to learn money. I always tell people that the hardest part is starting.

Once you start, you keep going, and you start to see wins, you start to get better, and then you’re like, “Oh, maybe my thoughts about this were not right.” You start to create evidence for yourself on why this is actually doable and possible for you, and that’s the path that has led me towards learning my own money, learning real estate for myself, investing in real estate, and now being the person that’s able to teach other women how to do this.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: So powerful. I love that journey because in order for us to actually learn the thing that we most fear, we have to go to those dark alleys. And the funny thing is, when we get into those dark alleys, you realize, there’s a light switch, right? You flick this thing on, “Okay, I can learn this.” I was terrible at math, and I think there’s a fear around that, right?

But the crazy thing is, we have to prove to ourselves in a way that, “Yeah, I might not be great at math, but there are ways to do this. There are ways to do this that I can teach myself, especially over a span of time.” I think for me there was a book that broke the code for me on how to think about money and it was just the mind shift. I’m like, “Oh my God, instead of putting it all in one pile, separate the piles.” And I was just like, “Now I can understand how to apply the math.” 

It’s just a simple switch, but it’s something that was a revelation, almost. And when you have that, it makes all the other processes that much easier because you understand the overall concept, and I think that’s really powerful. How can women physicians facing systemic oppression benefit from the principles that you present in your book? Because I know you like to go there and it’s really deep.

But I want to learn a little bit from you about women facing systemic oppression and how they can apply these tools in their day-to-day.

Empowering Women

Latifat Akintade: Absolutely. I think it’s no secret to you and a lot of people around that the culture in the world we live in was not specifically made with women or people of color or minorities in mind. That is just a fact that exists for good or for bad, it depends on what direction you’re coming from. And I love diversity. I think diversity is the spice of life, and I do think that a lot of what we have already is servicing some subsets of the population, which is great for them.

Now, the question is, and I always talk about the fact that we go in there. We talk about things like privilege. I don’t think privilege itself is a bad thing. I think when scarcity is applied to privilege or when the privilege creates scarcity and disparities, that is so broad, and I am not naïve to think disparities are never going to exist, but I think the huge range that we have of disparities in a lot of things including money currently is pretty jacked up.

So the key is this: If we can learn how to not be afraid of being broke, not be afraid of money because we’ve learned the principles that I talk about in this book, what that means is that we are able to speak more powerfully to things, like decreasing the wage gap that exists. For example, I will share a story with you of someone that shared with me. This is a couple, a woman and a male physician.

They work in the same hospital; they work in the same department, they check the same amount of calls, they commute to work, which is a salary position. So it is not like, “Oh, maybe one person is seeing more patients than the other.” The woman, in fact, was more celebrated in terms of her patient scores and how well she does compare to the specific male partner that she has, only to find out that their salary is actually different.

When they called this out, they were told that “Oh, sorry, it was a mistake.” Another example for you is another woman physician who had been working in this department for years, a new person, a guy started working in that department and what happens is they were just happening to have a conversation, only to find out that he was earning about USD 80,000 more than she was and he started working after she did.

The reason that they were told was, “Oh, you did not ask.” So there are things that we can do better, like negotiating better, speaking more with confidence, and asking for appropriate pay in exchange for the value that we create. But I do think that a lot of times, the reason why people don’t is because of fear, of again, fear of money, fear of judgment, and some other things that we’ve talked that I do go into somewhat in the book. And my hope and my goal is that if we can learn this stuff, we’ll be able to apply it to our lives and be able to get the return on the amazing work that we’re already doing in this world.

If we can do that, we don’t have to pay any subset less, but the other people that have been behind just get to be elevated, and that is what I’m here for.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: It’s so powerful. I can’t even express how grateful I am for someone like you to step into that light and educate people in the way that you are. Because it is so profoundly clear that we have been systemically oppressed in so many different areas and in so many different parts of our world, and especially in the US; sadly, that it needs to be adjusted. It needs to be corrected; it needs to be brought to light.

This whole idea of “you didn’t ask” is absurdity. It’s an absolute absurdity. I just read a thing that talked about, just in the State of Oregon where I used to live, that just across the board, people of color are earning 50% less than their Caucasian counterparts. And it just – I knew that working in the state a few years back and volunteering my time for policy making and things like that, and it was so frustrating because it was just like, we’re fighting for something that just – it’s like, “Why are we fighting for this?”

I’m doing the same exact same kind of work here as my counterpart; the fact that I get paid less is absurd. It makes no sense, and there is no excuse for it. However, that’s the systemic oppression that we are all trying to counterbalance, and I think your work and your book [is] a shining light on that. Because, and I love the fact that you’re not just a physician, you really want to help your physician friends.

You want to help the community; you want to help people. And I think by being well-educated and by being paid the right way and being able to really come to that in a way that is powerful, now I can come to work, show up in the best form and serve my community in a way that I signed up to do before even entering university for becoming a physician, to begin with.

Now, I’ll tell you this; my nephew is working on becoming a physician. He is in medical school; he’s a beautiful kid, beautiful, super intelligent. We have these conversations about what he wants to do and things like that. And he talks a lot about it because he’s just more aware; I feel like the younger generation has become so much more aware, thank God for the Internet and their abilities to connect with one another. And we do talk about systemic oppression and how he believes that he wants to become a voice for that.

I just champion him, man. He’s so beautiful in that way, and so for me, that just resonates deeply with how far we’ve come as young people and what we feel is right in our world. But I had to ask you, what advice would you give to women physicians specifically who feel maybe overwhelmed by their financial situation and are not sure where to start? Where is the beginning? Where is the starting line for someone?

Learn to Master Your Money

Latifat Akintade: You know, what I would say to them is I 100% get it, and the reason why I get it is not because I read a book about it, but it’s because I’ve lived it. It’s because I coach women physicians that have lived it. And some of them are still living it and walking along their journey to make sure that they empower themselves financially. I will say that the thing is this, being overwhelmed by money is not necessarily even dependent on how much you have.

It’s knowing what to do with it, it’s knowing the power of how to be the CEO and master of your money, CEO, and master of your life, and also have your mindset, your money mindset, the way you think about your money, the way you process money, the way you relate with yourself, the way you relate with money in a way that actually leads you to what’s freedom and not keep you bound.

So this is part of what causes overwhelm a lot of times, we have such misunderstanding of money that is not just based on us misinterpreting it, but because of the miseducation that may have been passed around honestly for sometimes generations. So the story that we’ve been taught about money, what we’ve been witnessing about money because if you think about it, a lot of what we do is not just what we’re taught but what we observe and what we see.

There is so much misinformation that we learn actively and passively that it is completely normal that a lot of us are misinformed about money. And when we’re not trying to do money from a space of misinformation, from a space of incomplete education, especially about money and the mindset around money and how we process money and the mentality around money, what ends up happening is we feel stuck because we’re like, “I don’t know what to do.”

Me, for example, when I start at money, one of the things that I have to struggle with was things like money is the root of evil, right? Money is the root of evil; you’re a physician, you’re greedy for talking about money. You are greedy for asking about money when people don’t have any lived experience of our lives, what the cost of being a physician is, not just in terms of debt but the continued cost of a physician spending sixty to eighty hours in the hospital.

We have lives and families outside of the hospital that cost us to maintain because we are spending all that time in the hospital. So yes, I agree with you that it’s not just about what we earn but what we keep. But when we don’t have the appropriate education, the complete knowledge information, the strategy, and how to really be the CEO and master of our finances, it is no surprise to me that many people, including myself, struggle with money.

But the good thing though is, if you’re a physician and even a non-physician and you’re listening to this right now, what I’m going to say is many of us that are listening to this episode are people that have done hard things in our lives. Whether you’re a teacher, whether you’re an accountant, whether you’re a physician, whether you’re a stay-at-home parent, you’ve done things in your life.

Listen, one of the hardest things you could do is hang around a toddler for twenty-four hours, so don’t tell me you don’t do hard things. That shit is hard. So you’ve done things that are harder than money, and you may not believe it right now because it’s not what everybody else has told you. Part of the reason why is because there are so many people in our society that get to benefit from you not being gripped with money.

For you not knowing how to think clearly without the baggage of the emotions about money, people that are like, “Please, don’t look at your credit statement because we’re living it up with the interest that you’re paying us every month.” People that don’t want equity or decreased disparities, I should say, because there is always going to be inequity, but it doesn’t have to be so crazily wide.

But there are people that benefit from you not taking the time to learn how to invest, from you not taking the time to learn how to have ownership of a business, how to be a CEO, how to be a business owner. There are so many people that are benefiting from that, and so they would tell you that it’s hard, that it’s too hard for you, as if you don’t already do hard things, right? So if you are listening to this, the point is you’ve done things that are harder, and money just happens to be the next area that maybe you need to bring some intentionality into it.

Because if you focus on it for a season of your life, if you choose to spend as much time as you spend on Netflix or Facebook or whatever it is on money, it is completely impossible for you not to be great at it.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Preaching right now, that is such powerful advice because you’re right, it’s all about your mindset and bringing that intentionality to this area of your life, which is, let’s be honest, one of if not the most important area of your life. Because money dictates, sadly sometimes, how you feel. Instead of you feeling good about it, it dictates how you feel not so good about it, and our culture and societies that we live in; you’re right.

They are making a good living off of us not understanding how money works, where we’re spending, all of these things. So raising your level of awareness that you can take control, you can do hard things, it is possible, you’ve broken through those barriers, you come from a different country, you’ve been able to do X, Y, and Z, everyone can do this. That’s such a powerful way to frame everything that you’ve done, especially in this book.

It’s so amazing. You know what’s crazy about your book, what I love? I mean, it’s not crazy, it’s just honestly, and I don’t mean this in a rude way or anything; it’s easy to read. It’s easy to navigate, the concepts are — honestly, as I was swiftly [going] through [it], I’m like, “Oh, I mean, it’s written for physicians.” But the reality is, I can apply some of those things to my life, you know what I mean? By just bringing my awareness to it, I think that’s so powerful.

But I got to ask you since you’ve been with Scribe, what was your favorite part of pulling this book together because it is not an easy feat, of course, but you do hard things, and I get that. One of these things is writing a book, but what was that journey like for you? What was your favorite part?

Latifat Akintade: It’s funny because you were at the beginning. You mentioned that you remember us sitting at the table when I came for the workshop, and there are so many times during that first time with you guys that I thought, “What the heck am I doing? How dare I think I can do this? Latifat, just delegate this. Let someone else take care of this.” Because it’s writing a book, that’s a freaking big deal, right?

I have to remind myself to have the tools that I use when it comes to money and bring that here as well, which is like, I’ve done harder things. There is literally nothing that is too hard for me. But what I have loved most about Scribe is, honestly, I think if I try doing this myself, I probably would have quit many times and not because I’m not hardworking, not because I’m not a go-getter, not because I’m not stubborn or persistent.

I’m all of that. I can do things that I put my mind to it. But because there were also many things that are happening in life, happening through life, so many competing things that are happening. I have a podcast, The MoneyFitMD Podcast; I am a mama of three kids, and I work pretty much full-time up until last week Thursday; I am preparing for a year of sabbatical. We’ve had losses in the middle of life and COVID, right?

COVID has been hard in hospitals, all this. So it’s not the lack of the ability to write but the presence of life. I’m really grateful that I chose to work with Scribe because you guys have made the process very, very, very doable. The checking process has been good, by having someone that checks up on you and say, “Look, these are the deadlines you’re working with. How are you doing?”

Shout out to Joy, by the way, I don’t know if she’s ever going to listen to this, but she’s amazing and I just love her attitude of, “I’m here to help you.” Yeah, why don’t we just — I’m like, “Okay, I have this question. Why don’t we just get on the phone, you know? Here’s my calendar; schedule a time with me, and I just love that. Knowing that there is someone walking through it with you has been one of my favorite parts of Scribe, and just knowing that I have a team that’s out there to support me has been priceless.

Again, I could do this myself, and I know that there are people that are sitting down listening to this and want to write a book, and they’re like, “Yeah, I can do this.” And there is no doubt in my mind that you can. But if you have life, number one, if you don’t think you can, then absolutely work with Scribe, you will. But also, if your life can just happen, and it’s nice to have someone and a community outside of yourself whose goal is to get you through that finish line and for me, that’s probably one of the best parts of this.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: So powerful. Thank you. Thank you for sharing such sweet comments. I’m sure everyone at Scribe appreciates that, and I know I do because just watching your journey unfold has been really powerful. But you’re 100% right in that you can go on the journey alone, and that’s fine. No one says you can’t do that, and that’s actually really powerful, but it’s so much – I don’t know, it’s more fun with friends and people and supporters and mentors.

Like, a tribe of people going along the journey with you ensuring that you’re doing well and helping you when things are getting harder and helping you stay on track. Because I feel like that’s the hardest thing is accountability because writing is such a solo thing. It doesn’t have to be, right? It doesn’t have to be just you sitting at a computer forever trying to crank out a book and bounce it off other people.

That’s really powerful; thank you for sharing that. Latifat, it’s been an absolute pleasure just having you on today and you share from a place of beauty and passion and, really, a place of wanting to serve the world. I think not only are you doing it as a physician, but of course, you are doing it as a mom and showing up on a podcast and really wanting to help people get to the mindset that you’ve achieved, which is that financial freedom but also work with pure purpose and love and just putting those things altogether.

You have buttoned it all down in this book, which is amazing. So the book is called, Done With Broke: The Woman Physician’s Guide to More Money and Less Hustle. So besides checking out the book, where can people find you?

Latifat Akintade: Absolutely. You know, thank you for having me here. The best place to find me is I have a podcast, which is called, The MoneyFitMD, so The MoneyFitMD Podcast, which is where we release one to two episodes every week, and we talk about all things money and mindset. You could also find me on Instagram @moneyfitmd, Facebook MoneyFitMD. I’m checking out LinkedIn, I’m not completely there yet, but I do have a lane in there.

But if you really want to hang out, then find me on Instagram, Facebook, or on my podcast, and of course, you can also go to my website, which is moneyfitmd.com. You can click the contact me, or if you’re a woman physician, absolutely, you can click the Work with Me button on there, and we can chat with someone on my team, and we can make sure that we help serve you as best as we can.

Hussein Al-Baiaty: Latifat, it’s been an absolute pleasure and an honor, not only just watching and bringing the book to life but now getting to celebrate with you as the book launches. Super excited for you, I know it’s going to make huge waves in our world, and it’s very important work. So thank you for putting the time, resources, and energy behind this. I’m grateful to be on the receiving end of it, so thanks again for coming on the show. Have a great day.